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Totally aside and ranty: facebook has started (recently?) greeting/forcing outsiders with a login dialog that covers the whole page. You can click "not now", b

by throw7 10y ago

Totally aside and ranty: facebook has started (recently?) greeting/forcing outsiders with a login dialog that covers the whole page. You can click "not now", but that just permanently lowers the login dialog box to about the bottom 1/3 of the page. If you want to publicly make your content available in a free and seamless way stop using facebook. Please.

adrianratnapala 10y ago
Yes, it was annoying enough to make me give up on trying to read the article.
- coldpie 10y ago
  NoScript prevents this dialog box from loading and you're allowed to read the article full-screen.
  - distances 10y ago
    Another great option is the "Block Element" feature of uBlock Origin which lets you easily create a blocking rule for any element on the page. In Firefox it's found in the right click menu, and you can then visually choose the element to be blocked. I regularly use it e.g. for the cookie acceptance boxes. They are a major annoyance -- as I don't save cookies, the setting for accepting cookies isn't preserved either and I have to approve them again and again. If I visit any such page for a second time it's easier to just hide the whole question with uBlock.
    - mdpopescu 10y ago
      Thank you, I wasn't aware of Block Element (it works in Chrome too). Great feature.
mikerichards 10y ago
Yes, annoying. Ended up right-clicking, inspect, and delete element.
ebbv 10y ago
Unfortunately he's now a high profile Facebook employee so I'm sure he has strict orders about where his content is to be posted.
deleted 10y ago
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cageface 10y ago
Your rant may be justified but I'm getting really tired of clicking on HN threads I'm interested in and finding the top comment plus a screenful or two of replies addressing some nit somebody wants to pick with the implementation of the site in the article instead of addressing the content of the article. Leave the asides aside please.
- zepto 10y ago
  Flag?
- Bjartr 10y ago
  I disagree that we should discourage engaging discussion just because it happens to be meta or only tangentially related. This is a user experience problem, not a content problem. More specifically, this is a use case for comment-thread collapsing where when, as a user, you come across a long thread that doesn't interest you, you can collapse it and immediately be at more content, rather than needing to manually find the end of the uninteresting thread. This allows both for the community to drive the discussion to what most interests the community, and to allow those with different tastes than the majority to still participate without alienating or frustrating them or those involved in said discussion.
  - kbenson 10y ago
    There are many browser extensions for HN, and thread collapse is possibly the most common feature in them. I'm of the opinion that HN doesn't implement features like this on purpose, because they expect you to find a way to work around the limitations that works best for you, and that will likely result in a more customized and comfortable experience than them forcing their opinion of how the content should be presented on you. HN is somewhat notorious for having these soft limitations (such as not showing reply on very active threads for a few minutes, which also has an easy workaround for those that know).
  - cageface 10y ago
    I completely agree that I should be able to easily collapse any sub thread and also see only the comments that have been made since the last time I viewed comments on an article.
anamoulous 10y ago
And I wish there was some filter in HN that let us ignore upvoted posts that complain about gated sites, design, javascript requirements or how slow Atom is. It's an unfair world.
- izacus 10y ago
  Or, you know, don't link to content that's actively hostile to the reader.
  - nwah1 10y ago
    Exactly. It is usually possible to find other links with the same content, and on a site like HN we ought to be able to expect better. Perhaps there ought to be some feature on the part of HN itself, to automatically recommend the better links, when possible.
GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
On the other hand, making a fake facebook account is pretty easy.
brudgers 10y ago
Firefox Reader Mode resolves the issue for me. I use it on both Desktop and Android. My only beef with it is that there is no keyboard shortcut.

by throw7 10y ago

adrianratnapala 10y ago

Yes, it was annoying enough to make me give up on trying to read the article.

coldpie 10y ago
NoScript prevents this dialog box from loading and you're allowed to read the article full-screen.
- distances 10y ago
  Another great option is the "Block Element" feature of uBlock Origin which lets you easily create a blocking rule for any element on the page. In Firefox it's found in the right click menu, and you can then visually choose the element to be blocked. I regularly use it e.g. for the cookie acceptance boxes. They are a major annoyance -- as I don't save cookies, the setting for accepting cookies isn't preserved either and I have to approve them again and again. If I visit any such page for a second time it's easier to just hide the whole question with uBlock.
  - mdpopescu 10y ago
    Thank you, I wasn't aware of Block Element (it works in Chrome too). Great feature.

mikerichards 10y ago

Yes, annoying. Ended up right-clicking, inspect, and delete element.

ebbv 10y ago

Unfortunately he's now a high profile Facebook employee so I'm sure he has strict orders about where his content is to be posted.

deleted 10y ago

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cageface 10y ago

Your rant may be justified but I'm getting really tired of clicking on HN threads I'm interested in and finding the top comment plus a screenful or two of replies addressing some nit somebody wants to pick with the implementation of the site in the article instead of addressing the content of the article. Leave the asides aside please.

zepto 10y ago
Flag?
Bjartr 10y ago
I disagree that we should discourage engaging discussion just because it happens to be meta or only tangentially related. This is a user experience problem, not a content problem. More specifically, this is a use case for comment-thread collapsing where when, as a user, you come across a long thread that doesn't interest you, you can collapse it and immediately be at more content, rather than needing to manually find the end of the uninteresting thread. This allows both for the community to drive the discussion to what most interests the community, and to allow those with different tastes than the majority to still participate without alienating or frustrating them or those involved in said discussion.
- kbenson 10y ago
  There are many browser extensions for HN, and thread collapse is possibly the most common feature in them. I'm of the opinion that HN doesn't implement features like this on purpose, because they expect you to find a way to work around the limitations that works best for you, and that will likely result in a more customized and comfortable experience than them forcing their opinion of how the content should be presented on you. HN is somewhat notorious for having these soft limitations (such as not showing reply on very active threads for a few minutes, which also has an easy workaround for those that know).
- cageface 10y ago
  I completely agree that I should be able to easily collapse any sub thread and also see only the comments that have been made since the last time I viewed comments on an article.

anamoulous 10y ago

And I wish there was some filter in HN that let us ignore upvoted posts that complain about gated sites, design, javascript requirements or how slow Atom is. It's an unfair world.

izacus 10y ago
Or, you know, don't link to content that's actively hostile to the reader.
- nwah1 10y ago
  Exactly. It is usually possible to find other links with the same content, and on a site like HN we ought to be able to expect better. Perhaps there ought to be some feature on the part of HN itself, to automatically recommend the better links, when possible.

GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago

On the other hand, making a fake facebook account is pretty easy.

brudgers 10y ago

Firefox Reader Mode resolves the issue for me. I use it on both Desktop and Android. My only beef with it is that there is no keyboard shortcut.