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Then maybe just maybe add a rule that you must lurk before asking questions? When the site clearly looks like as a place for noobs to get questions answered fo

Then maybe just maybe add a rule that you must lurk before asking questions? When the site clearly looks like as a place for noobs to get questions answered for free then maybe don't complain that you get just that.

mhurron 10y ago
If they would search for the answer to their question, they would get it right now instead of waiting for someone to come in and answer the same question yet again. If you are starting out with something new, someone has already had the same problem you are. Your question has already been asked and answered.
- reitanqild 10y ago
  Not sure I understand your comment. My take is that would be a good thing if beginners learned to search first.
- piva00 10y ago
  Most of the beginner's problem is: how should I phrase this question I have? Instead of searching for specific jargon they don't know about they'll come up with their own terms to try to explain their problem. This is another acquired skill, nowadays to be a good programmer you need to learn how to search for documentation and how to phrase it and to learn that you need to become a programmer and be in contact with the technical jargon. I don't know another way to overcome this except for experience, what is exactly what newbies don't have so I try not to bash them but educate in how they can find the stuff they want.
an_ko 10y ago
"Duration of membership" seems a much less relevant metric here than "quality of post".
- reitanqild 10y ago
  Yep, I only suggest there might be a correlation that could be taken advantage of if the main scaling problem is moderation.
weaksauce 10y ago
The about us statement clearly states that it's a place for developers to "Developers trust Stack Overflow to help solve coding problems..." and "...our products aim to enrich the lives of developers as they grow and mature in their careers." Pretty clear that it's for professional programmers and not beginners. I agree that it is a bit frustrating to google something and have the SO question marked as a duplicate of another unanswered question. There are many places to learn the basics of programming and SO is not that place.
- reitanqild 10y ago
  > Pretty clear that it's for professional programmers and not beginners. SO itself begs to differ: > Stack Overflow is for professional and enthusiast programmers, people who write code because they love it. So very clearly not only professionals. Also as lambda points out somewhere in this discussion you might be a seasoned pro in one language and a noob in another.
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edem 10y ago
Again. Read the FAQ. It is there. The site has numerous points where they tell you to read it and the guidelines. Your lack of attention is a poor excuse.
- reitanqild 10y ago
  We're not talking about my lack off attention. I've already mostly stopped asking on SO a while and when I do I only do after I have either found the answer or exhausted all other relevant options that I know off (and prepared mentally to be told that it is not relevant because of what I think is <technicality>[0] or not a good question because it is primarily opinion based etc. IMO we are talking about every newbie that find SO every day and those who don't like dealing with them. [0]: ok, that last one was on networking stackexchange or something.

mhurron 10y ago

If they would search for the answer to their question, they would get it right now instead of waiting for someone to come in and answer the same question yet again. If you are starting out with something new, someone has already had the same problem you are. Your question has already been asked and answered.

reitanqild 10y ago
Not sure I understand your comment. My take is that would be a good thing if beginners learned to search first.
piva00 10y ago
Most of the beginner's problem is: how should I phrase this question I have? Instead of searching for specific jargon they don't know about they'll come up with their own terms to try to explain their problem. This is another acquired skill, nowadays to be a good programmer you need to learn how to search for documentation and how to phrase it and to learn that you need to become a programmer and be in contact with the technical jargon. I don't know another way to overcome this except for experience, what is exactly what newbies don't have so I try not to bash them but educate in how they can find the stuff they want.

an_ko 10y ago

"Duration of membership" seems a much less relevant metric here than "quality of post".

reitanqild 10y ago
Yep, I only suggest there might be a correlation that could be taken advantage of if the main scaling problem is moderation.

weaksauce 10y ago

The about us statement clearly states that it's a place for developers to "Developers trust Stack Overflow to help solve coding problems..." and "...our products aim to enrich the lives of developers as they grow and mature in their careers." Pretty clear that it's for professional programmers and not beginners. I agree that it is a bit frustrating to google something and have the SO question marked as a duplicate of another unanswered question. There are many places to learn the basics of programming and SO is not that place.

reitanqild 10y ago
> Pretty clear that it's for professional programmers and not beginners. SO itself begs to differ: > Stack Overflow is for professional and enthusiast programmers, people who write code because they love it. So very clearly not only professionals. Also as lambda points out somewhere in this discussion you might be a seasoned pro in one language and a noob in another.
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edem 10y ago

Again. Read the FAQ. It is there. The site has numerous points where they tell you to read it and the guidelines. Your lack of attention is a poor excuse.

reitanqild 10y ago
We're not talking about my lack off attention. I've already mostly stopped asking on SO a while and when I do I only do after I have either found the answer or exhausted all other relevant options that I know off (and prepared mentally to be told that it is not relevant because of what I think is <technicality>[0] or not a good question because it is primarily opinion based etc. IMO we are talking about every newbie that find SO every day and those who don't like dealing with them. [0]: ok, that last one was on networking stackexchange or something.