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> Add in a car, ($0 in Toronto, $1000 in The bay w/ parking, insurance, gas & the vehicle) My observation is that's great to not have a car in SF, I prefer not

> Add in a car, ($0 in Toronto, $1000 in The bay w/ parking, insurance, gas & the vehicle) My observation is that's great to not have a car in SF, I prefer not to. But it's impossible not to have a car in Toronto. Why is it $0 in Toronto?

raverbashing 10y ago
Doesn't look too impossible to not have a car in Toronto (also there are things like Car2Go, no?)
- johan_larson 10y ago
  Going carless in Toronto is very possible. After I moved to my current digs at Yonge and Eglinton, I noticed I used my car less than once a month, so I got rid of it. If you're gonna do this, make sure you're near the subway. Buses and streetcars are a lot less convenient than the subway.
hughes 10y ago
Impossible? I lived in Toronto for ten years without a car and never had trouble getting around. $0 is a bit misleading, as you will need $130/mo for a metropass.
- alexc05 10y ago
  I'm shoes & a bike... Which is how I got away with claiming $0 on that, but yeah, I'd go so far as to concede a metro-pass could be required for some. Personally, it's a 20 minute walk to work at Yonge & bloor ... So car isn't really critical here for me.
wahnfrieden 10y ago
Toronto without a car is very easy so long as you live and work along a subway line, or less ideally, streetcar lines. Uber fills in the gaps.
alexc05 10y ago
Great to hear you can go without a car in SF I'm a 20 minute walk to work in Toronto with a large grocery store across the street from home. Basically everything can be done on foot. Add in a bike and a nice transit system and no-car is pretty easy here. Are you in SF? Does $4k for a 1 bed+den seem to be in the ballpark?
- greenleafjacob 10y ago
  Median 1 bed is $3500-3700. Median 2 bed is $4700-4900.
- mrgordon 10y ago
  Rents can vary widely but I think $3000 is probably a more reasonable estimate. The transit estimates also seem too high - I spend almost nothing because I can walk to work and take a Lyft Line for $5 or a bus for $2.25 if I need to. Many people bike. Overall it would be fairly easy to only spend a few hundred a month on transit for many people if your apartment isn't too isolated.
  - acchow 10y ago
    You cannot get a 1BR+den for $3000 in SF. It'll be just over $4k since it'll be similar square footage to a 2BR but discounted for not having the proper second bedroom.
    - mrgordon 10y ago
      I pay less than $3000 actually and see similar listings

raverbashing 10y ago

Doesn't look too impossible to not have a car in Toronto (also there are things like Car2Go, no?)

johan_larson 10y ago
Going carless in Toronto is very possible. After I moved to my current digs at Yonge and Eglinton, I noticed I used my car less than once a month, so I got rid of it. If you're gonna do this, make sure you're near the subway. Buses and streetcars are a lot less convenient than the subway.

hughes 10y ago

Impossible? I lived in Toronto for ten years without a car and never had trouble getting around. $0 is a bit misleading, as you will need $130/mo for a metropass.

alexc05 10y ago
I'm shoes & a bike... Which is how I got away with claiming $0 on that, but yeah, I'd go so far as to concede a metro-pass could be required for some. Personally, it's a 20 minute walk to work at Yonge & bloor ... So car isn't really critical here for me.

wahnfrieden 10y ago

Toronto without a car is very easy so long as you live and work along a subway line, or less ideally, streetcar lines. Uber fills in the gaps.

alexc05 10y ago

Great to hear you can go without a car in SF I'm a 20 minute walk to work in Toronto with a large grocery store across the street from home. Basically everything can be done on foot. Add in a bike and a nice transit system and no-car is pretty easy here. Are you in SF? Does $4k for a 1 bed+den seem to be in the ballpark?

greenleafjacob 10y ago
Median 1 bed is $3500-3700. Median 2 bed is $4700-4900.
mrgordon 10y ago
Rents can vary widely but I think $3000 is probably a more reasonable estimate. The transit estimates also seem too high - I spend almost nothing because I can walk to work and take a Lyft Line for $5 or a bus for $2.25 if I need to. Many people bike. Overall it would be fairly easy to only spend a few hundred a month on transit for many people if your apartment isn't too isolated.
- acchow 10y ago
  You cannot get a 1BR+den for $3000 in SF. It'll be just over $4k since it'll be similar square footage to a 2BR but discounted for not having the proper second bedroom.
  - mrgordon 10y ago
    I pay less than $3000 actually and see similar listings