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If someone made me choose between the Bay Area and Toronto, I would pick Toronto. Every day of the week. Toronto's great. Sure, it's like the planet Hoth for a
by jacques_chester 10y ago
If someone made me choose between the Bay Area and Toronto, I would pick Toronto. Every day of the week. Toronto's great.
Sure, it's like the planet Hoth for a third of the year. But in every other way it's a more liveable city. The public transport in the core of the city exists and works, rather than being a cobbled-together mishmash of uncoordinated systems of which 2 out of 3 seem to be broken at any time.
The rent is a shit ton cheaper, the people are much nicer, the food is more varied, the city is gorgeous in summer, it's big enough to have serious amenities, small enough to be walkable and the people who look like lumberjacks probably are.
I live in NYC, because I prefer it to SF as well. As an Australian citizen I find it significantly easier to work in the USA than in Canada. But if Toronto's scene were on a rough scale with NYC's and if the immigration thing could be sorted, I'd be tempted to move.
- uola 10y ago"If someone made me choose between the Bay Area and Toronto, I would pick Toronto" The thing is that for most people this wouldn't be the candidates. Toronto is probably a third tier city for startups, meaning there are more candidates and factors to consider.
- forgetsusername 10y ago>and the people who look like lumberjacks probably are. As someone who grew up in a forestry town in Northern Ontario...Toronto is a world away, and much more similar to the Bay Area than where I grew up.
- jacques_chester 10y agoOh, for sure. But there's Brooklyn hipsters, and SF hipsters, and Toronto hipsters, and then there are actual forestry workers who come into town.
- MustardTiger 10y agoNo they don't. Toronto is two plane rides away for them.
- superplussed 10y agoWhat is harder about Canadian immigration? I'd always had the impression the U.S. made things more difficult.
- jacques_chester 10y agoI'm Australian. We have a special visa, the E3, which is very easy to get. Meanwhile almost everyone else is stuck in the H1B shitshow, which has in the past 5 years grown from merely "terrible" to "nuclear-powered self-propelling toxic thunderblob".
- yardie 10y agoI've been curious if the US has a reciprocal visa with Australia? I'm a USian who has a deep affection for Melbourne.
- avn2109 10y agoDon't think so, the Americans gave the Aussies the E3 as quid pro quo for fighting with us in Iraq; it's not a bi-directional agreement.
- jacques_chester 10y agoI am not a lawyer, but I think the 457 visa fills a role similar to the H1B or E3. You need to coming in for a job on the "Skilled Occupations List"[1], which currently includes various job titles related to software development. [0] https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/457- https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/457- [1] https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/SOL https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-a...
- cylinder 10y agoNo, but the 457 is easy and you may also have independent skilled migration options to get PR without job sponsorship. Let me know if you need help.
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- MustardTiger 10y ago>and the people who look like lumberjacks probably are No, they are the same hipster dufus people as in Portland. There are no lumberjacks in Toronto.