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I would think that Canadian and German passport would be quite excellent. Canadian because it gives you access to free healthcare and the United States, as wel

by Teever 10y ago

I would think that Canadian and German passport would be quite excellent. Canadian because it gives you access to free healthcare and the United States, as well as visa free entry to so many countries and the German one gives you all of the EU. I knew a person with Canadian, Swiss, and New Zealand -- now that's an awesome combination.

garrettgrimsley 10y ago
I'm more interested in which passport adds the most most visa free travel to a given passport. Maybe Russia would be best given a US passport, since Canada/USA/Germany are sure to have a great deal of overlap. You can take the set difference of the passport you have and all of the candidate passports. Whichever candidate yields the set with the highest cardinality is the passport to pursue.
sdm 10y ago
Canadian passport does not give you free healthcare; it is completely unconnected with citizenship. Health care, like most thing, is the responsibility of the provincial governments. You have to be a resident of a province for a period of time, usually 6 months, to get free healthcare in that province. Provinces do cover out of province travel and some limited international travel though usually not the US -- but that all varies by province. If you are a non-resident Canadian citizen, you will not be covered and have to pay full even if you are treated in Canada. For example, if you move to the Bay area for work, go home at christmas and break your leg, you will be out of pocket the total costs. However, if you a resident non-citizen (i.e., PR, TFW, Student), you will be covered after your residency is established.
- raverbashing 10y ago
  It's 3 months for Quebec and 153 days for Ontario http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/programs/ohip/ http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/programs/ohip/
  - codexjourneys 10y ago
    What happens to you if you move and then get in a terrible accident? Does your former province cover you during this in-between residency establishment phase? Do you need to move back to your old province (or be moved back) before the waiting period expires? Or are you completely SOL?
    - raverbashing 10y ago
      I'm not sure, I think that in the specific case of an inter-province move you're still covered by the older province Or you get a separate private insurance if you're coming into Canada to stay I suspect that even without any coverage you're not SOL because of things like the mandatory insurance that vehicles must have
      - codexjourneys 10y ago
        Okay, I figured there must be some provision for movers but was unwilling to assume - so the old province would cover me if I had some incident in the new province (car accident, heart attack, mega food poisoning, whatever)...
- eps 10y ago
  Precisely. Either you are a resident who pays taxes and gets health care coverage or you are non-resident with no tax obligations and no health care coverage. There's no free lunch.
bla2 10y ago
Doesn't Germany require you to give up other citizenships when you become a German citizen?
- Xylakant 10y ago
  That used to be the case for most nationalities, but rules have been relaxed. For example you can keep any EU nationality when you're becoming a German.
  - Kliment 10y ago
    More specifically, you are allowed to keep your previous citizenship if any of the following apply: 1) Your previous citizenship is in an EU member state or in Switzerland. 2) Your previous citizenship is in a country which has no process for renouncing citizenship, or where renouncing citizenship is illegal or otherwise dangerous or unnecessarily difficult (there is a published list of countries where that is the case, and having citizenship of one of those automatically removes the renunciation requirement for that country's citizenship) 3) You make a case to the government that renouncing your previous citizenship is an undue hardship, with costs, risks, or impact on your life that are beyond reasonable (these are decided on a case by case basis) Incidentally, I'm intimately familiar with the naturalization process. If my knowledge can help anyone else, I'm happy to do so. Email/IRC contact in my profile.

by Teever 10y ago

garrettgrimsley 10y ago

I'm more interested in which passport adds the most most visa free travel to a given passport. Maybe Russia would be best given a US passport, since Canada/USA/Germany are sure to have a great deal of overlap. You can take the set difference of the passport you have and all of the candidate passports. Whichever candidate yields the set with the highest cardinality is the passport to pursue.

sdm 10y ago

Canadian passport does not give you free healthcare; it is completely unconnected with citizenship. Health care, like most thing, is the responsibility of the provincial governments. You have to be a resident of a province for a period of time, usually 6 months, to get free healthcare in that province. Provinces do cover out of province travel and some limited international travel though usually not the US -- but that all varies by province. If you are a non-resident Canadian citizen, you will not be covered and have to pay full even if you are treated in Canada. For example, if you move to the Bay area for work, go home at christmas and break your leg, you will be out of pocket the total costs. However, if you a resident non-citizen (i.e., PR, TFW, Student), you will be covered after your residency is established.

raverbashing 10y ago
It's 3 months for Quebec and 153 days for Ontario http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/programs/ohip/ http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/programs/ohip/
- codexjourneys 10y ago
  What happens to you if you move and then get in a terrible accident? Does your former province cover you during this in-between residency establishment phase? Do you need to move back to your old province (or be moved back) before the waiting period expires? Or are you completely SOL?
  - raverbashing 10y ago
    I'm not sure, I think that in the specific case of an inter-province move you're still covered by the older province Or you get a separate private insurance if you're coming into Canada to stay I suspect that even without any coverage you're not SOL because of things like the mandatory insurance that vehicles must have
    - codexjourneys 10y ago
      Okay, I figured there must be some provision for movers but was unwilling to assume - so the old province would cover me if I had some incident in the new province (car accident, heart attack, mega food poisoning, whatever)...
eps 10y ago
Precisely. Either you are a resident who pays taxes and gets health care coverage or you are non-resident with no tax obligations and no health care coverage. There's no free lunch.

bla2 10y ago

Doesn't Germany require you to give up other citizenships when you become a German citizen?

Xylakant 10y ago
That used to be the case for most nationalities, but rules have been relaxed. For example you can keep any EU nationality when you're becoming a German.
- Kliment 10y ago
  More specifically, you are allowed to keep your previous citizenship if any of the following apply: 1) Your previous citizenship is in an EU member state or in Switzerland. 2) Your previous citizenship is in a country which has no process for renouncing citizenship, or where renouncing citizenship is illegal or otherwise dangerous or unnecessarily difficult (there is a published list of countries where that is the case, and having citizenship of one of those automatically removes the renunciation requirement for that country's citizenship) 3) You make a case to the government that renouncing your previous citizenship is an undue hardship, with costs, risks, or impact on your life that are beyond reasonable (these are decided on a case by case basis) Incidentally, I'm intimately familiar with the naturalization process. If my knowledge can help anyone else, I'm happy to do so. Email/IRC contact in my profile.