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I think what will really help us to get at a better estimate is to answer the question whether there exists life in our solar system that evolved indepe
by throwaway_yy2Di 10y ago
I think what will really help us to get at a better estimate
is to answer the question whether there exists life in our
solar system that evolved independently of that on Earth.
That's definitely the big question. But you left out the elephant in the room: is there life right here on Earth that's evolved independently? Abiogenesis doesn't simply halt after it's achieved its "goal". Perhaps we take the common-origin hypothesis for granted (that the "tree of life" has one root, and is in fact a tree), but it's actually nontrivial, strong evidence about the rate of abiogenesis, right under our noses. If it's true.
There's no hard reason why another, orthogonal family of life couldn't coexist with DNA/RNA life. We have 10^7 extant species of DNA/RNA life; that's an existence proof that hostile, competing "types" of life can coexist. Suppose we found terrestrial "XNA life" with a biochemistry totally unrelated to anything else, with no possible common origin or lateral gene transfer. Then we would know life on Earth developed independently N >= 2 times, instead of N >= 1. That would change a lot; we could update P(life | Earth-like planet) from the subjective probability range [10^-Graham's number, 1) to something more like [10^-4, 1).
What's really surprising is that this is completely untested! We genuinely don't know if there's "alien" life on Earth, because we don't know how to look for it. There's no black-box tool to approach unknown biochemistry:
Some have postulated the existence of a 'shadow biosphere'
on Earth, teeming with life that has gone undiscovered
because scientists simply don't know where to look. It could
contain life that relies on a fundamentally different
biochemistry, using different forms of amino acids or even
entirely novel ways of storing, replicating and executing
inherited information that do not rely on DNA or
proteins. [...] The trick is deciding what to look for and
how to detect it. The usual way that researchers search for
new organisms — by sequencing DNA or RNA — will not pick up
life that does not depend on them.
http://www.nature.com/news/life-changing-experiments-the-biological-higgs-1.10310 http://www.nature.com/news/life-changing-experiments-the-bio...
...We could even be oblivious to unfamiliar forms of life
right under our noses...
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/02/shadow-biosphere-might-be-hiding-strange-life-right-under-our-noses http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/02/shadow-biosphere-migh...
- TheOtherHobbes 10y agoAs soon as you get v1.0 life, it starts bioforming its environment. v2.0 life would have to evolve in the changed environment - which would be considerably less hospitable, because the most useful chemical processes and energy sources will be colonised by v1.0 life. v1.0 life will (more or less literally) get the low hanging fruit. v2.0 would have to evolve around the edges, which means the probability gradient is higher and therefore less likely.
- ThePhysicist 10y agoBut I think this actually happens with normal life as well: Individual species of bacteria try to conquer a biological niche by shifting conditions such that only they can survive. But by doing this they invariably create chemical by-products that can be harnessed by other life forms, thereby fueling their growth. It's an interesting question whether there are any biospheres on Earth that are colonized exclusively by a single species of life (I doubt it). So although it's a very valid point I'm not sure if it's a sufficient argument against the hypothesis of having two independently evolved and fundamentally different types of life on a given planet.
- ThePhysicist 10y agoFascinating, thanks for pointing this out! Discovering a new kind of life on Earth that has coexisted with us without being noticed would be a huge event of course, and it would probably challenge what we regard as life in a general way. This would be good stuff for a science fiction story as well.
- apenwarr 10y agoIt does make a good sci fi story: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M64A8EG/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M64A8EG/
- ThePhysicist 10y agoWow, thanks for the link :)