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She's so sane and down to earth that she'd rather be the most powerful Senator for 20 years than President for 4 years. You should be thanking her for playing

by labster 10y ago

She's so sane and down to earth that she'd rather be the most powerful Senator for 20 years than President for 4 years. You should be thanking her for playing the long game.

shawn-butler 10y ago
There is nothing preventing any former President for running for another elected office that is not in the line of succession. I think Andrew Johnson ran for the Senate while still POTUS if memory serves.
- vertex-four 10y ago
  Being President doesn't tend to do wonders for public opinion, though - it's an incredibly public role and every decision is scrutinized to a degree higher than any other public office.
newman314 10y ago
I'm over her when she decided to endorse Hillary thereby implicitly endorsing Hillary's Wall Street connections. So much for defending against big banks. :(
- specialist 10y ago
  Human affairs are a marathon, not a sprint. Pace yourself. Also, I've learned to embrace incrementalism and transactional politics (quid pro quo). Lastly, if you bring the heat, the targeted policy maker(s) will see the light. The color of their logo won't be a factor. Sanders' campaign, and massive following, absolutely moved Clinton to the left.
  - newman314 10y ago
    It moved her statements to the left (for now). I very much doubt that she's going to actually go through with things given her past history. Examples: TPP, gay marriage etc. One could try arguing that she has evolved but MANY see her as just flip-flopping to what seems politically expedient at that time. Hence the tremendous amount of distrust. Embrace incrementalism = let's make mediocre great again. Imagine that kind of mentality when it was announced that we were going to try to send someone to the Moon. "Let's shoot for the moon!" "Enh, let's just name an airport instead to build support"
    - specialist 10y ago
      How do you think gay marriage and marijuana were legalized (thus far)? Fits and starts. Fighting for every single inch. And then eventually victory. Think of any major, significant social progress. Emancipation, suffrage, welfare, worker safety, child labor, etc. etc. Each decades in the making. I encourage you to read The Waxman Report by former US Sen Henry Waxman to get a sense of how much effort and time it takes to forge policy, move the needle. Continue to disempower yourself thru cynicism, apathy, and inaction. Or follow the examples of Sanders, Warren and 1000s of others and learn to convert your outrage into action.

by labster 10y ago

She's so sane and down to earth that she'd rather be the most powerful Senator for 20 years than President for 4 years. You should be thanking her for playing the long game.

shawn-butler 10y ago

There is nothing preventing any former President for running for another elected office that is not in the line of succession. I think Andrew Johnson ran for the Senate while still POTUS if memory serves.

vertex-four 10y ago
Being President doesn't tend to do wonders for public opinion, though - it's an incredibly public role and every decision is scrutinized to a degree higher than any other public office.

newman314 10y ago

I'm over her when she decided to endorse Hillary thereby implicitly endorsing Hillary's Wall Street connections. So much for defending against big banks. :(

specialist 10y ago
Human affairs are a marathon, not a sprint. Pace yourself. Also, I've learned to embrace incrementalism and transactional politics (quid pro quo). Lastly, if you bring the heat, the targeted policy maker(s) will see the light. The color of their logo won't be a factor. Sanders' campaign, and massive following, absolutely moved Clinton to the left.
- newman314 10y ago
  It moved her statements to the left (for now). I very much doubt that she's going to actually go through with things given her past history. Examples: TPP, gay marriage etc. One could try arguing that she has evolved but MANY see her as just flip-flopping to what seems politically expedient at that time. Hence the tremendous amount of distrust. Embrace incrementalism = let's make mediocre great again. Imagine that kind of mentality when it was announced that we were going to try to send someone to the Moon. "Let's shoot for the moon!" "Enh, let's just name an airport instead to build support"
  - specialist 10y ago
    How do you think gay marriage and marijuana were legalized (thus far)? Fits and starts. Fighting for every single inch. And then eventually victory. Think of any major, significant social progress. Emancipation, suffrage, welfare, worker safety, child labor, etc. etc. Each decades in the making. I encourage you to read The Waxman Report by former US Sen Henry Waxman to get a sense of how much effort and time it takes to forge policy, move the needle. Continue to disempower yourself thru cynicism, apathy, and inaction. Or follow the examples of Sanders, Warren and 1000s of others and learn to convert your outrage into action.