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lol you actually believe a Republican would be against free trade? There's a reason he ran as a Republican in the first place.

iLoch 10y ago
Trump wants corporations to stay in the US. TPP allows corporations to sue the US for loss of profits in other countries IIRC, so that would mean TPP is indeed against Trump's interests.
jedberg 10y ago
He did that because he had to pick a party. He could have just as easily run as a Democrat and used the same tactics with different talking points. He doesn't really alight with either party. But he's most certainly anti-free-trade. All of his business and money is in the US (mostly in real estate). It's in his best interest to artificially prop up US industry by shutting down inbound trade.
- mozumder 10y ago
  He became a Republican because he is a corporatist. It is Republican orthodoxy to be against consumer and labor rights. He has absolutely no interest in abandoning the TPP, since, as a Republican, he is in favor of exporting US jobs. When dealing with Trump, it it important to ignore what he says, because he will literally lie 71 times in a single speech: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_us_56fc375fe4b0daf53aee9175 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_...
  - rayiner 10y ago
    Trump may be a liar, but it's probably a miscalculation to think he has greater loyalty to the Republican Party than to himself. Trump is a real estate guy. His business is intrinsically tied to the US. He can't outsource hotel construction jobs to China. That makes being anti-globalization an easy path for him. Moreover, more capital sloshing around in the US instead of going overseas means lower interest rates for construction loans.
    - mozumder 10y ago
      His businesses are overseas now.
  - xienze 10y ago
    > When dealing with Trump, it it important to ignore what he says, because he will literally lie 71 times in a single speech: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_.... First of all, HuffPo is uh, far from an unbiased source when it comes to Trump. But secondly, a lot of that stuff has very flimsy reasoning behind it: > 11. Claim: “She wasn’t dragged to the ground.” — Trump on Fields. > Reality: Trump implies here that Fields said she was dragged to the ground. She never did. > She said, “I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance,” which is what the video shows. If you follow the link with her quote, right before the "I almost fell..." sentence, in her own words she says "Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down." Which directly contradicts > Reality: Trump implies here that Fields said she was dragged to the ground. She never did. So uh, HuffPo is lying here about a time they claimed Trump is lying? And then you get stuff like this: > 53. Claim: “I am not soliciting money from insurance companies and from lumber companies and from banks and from — if I did, I would have made Jeb Bush look like a baby.” > Reality: He made Bush look like a baby anyway. Are we reaching here or what? They're seriously trying to say he's lying about not making Jeb look bad? And then you've got stuff like this: > 40. Claim: “Only a fool would give a tax return [during an audit].” > Realty: Lawyers do advise against doing this. But nothing about being audited prevents Trump from releasing his tax records. So yeah, he's right that he shouldn't give out his tax return during an audit. What is he lying about here? He never said he couldn't, just that he shouldn't. If the disclaimer the HuffPo puts on every Trump article hasn't clued you in, they've clearly got an axe to grind against him and you're not exactly guaranteed to get unbiased reporting about him from them.
    - mozumder 10y ago
      Keep going. You have about 68 more to disqualify in order to prove that Trump isn't a liar.

iLoch 10y ago

Trump wants corporations to stay in the US. TPP allows corporations to sue the US for loss of profits in other countries IIRC, so that would mean TPP is indeed against Trump's interests.

jedberg 10y ago

He did that because he had to pick a party. He could have just as easily run as a Democrat and used the same tactics with different talking points. He doesn't really alight with either party. But he's most certainly anti-free-trade. All of his business and money is in the US (mostly in real estate). It's in his best interest to artificially prop up US industry by shutting down inbound trade.

mozumder 10y ago
He became a Republican because he is a corporatist. It is Republican orthodoxy to be against consumer and labor rights. He has absolutely no interest in abandoning the TPP, since, as a Republican, he is in favor of exporting US jobs. When dealing with Trump, it it important to ignore what he says, because he will literally lie 71 times in a single speech: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_us_56fc375fe4b0daf53aee9175 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_...
- rayiner 10y ago
  Trump may be a liar, but it's probably a miscalculation to think he has greater loyalty to the Republican Party than to himself. Trump is a real estate guy. His business is intrinsically tied to the US. He can't outsource hotel construction jobs to China. That makes being anti-globalization an easy path for him. Moreover, more capital sloshing around in the US instead of going overseas means lower interest rates for construction loans.
  - mozumder 10y ago
    His businesses are overseas now.
- xienze 10y ago
  > When dealing with Trump, it it important to ignore what he says, because he will literally lie 71 times in a single speech: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_.. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fact-check_.... First of all, HuffPo is uh, far from an unbiased source when it comes to Trump. But secondly, a lot of that stuff has very flimsy reasoning behind it: > 11. Claim: “She wasn’t dragged to the ground.” — Trump on Fields. > Reality: Trump implies here that Fields said she was dragged to the ground. She never did. > She said, “I almost fell to the ground, but was able to maintain my balance,” which is what the video shows. If you follow the link with her quote, right before the "I almost fell..." sentence, in her own words she says "Someone had grabbed me tightly by the arm and yanked me down." Which directly contradicts > Reality: Trump implies here that Fields said she was dragged to the ground. She never did. So uh, HuffPo is lying here about a time they claimed Trump is lying? And then you get stuff like this: > 53. Claim: “I am not soliciting money from insurance companies and from lumber companies and from banks and from — if I did, I would have made Jeb Bush look like a baby.” > Reality: He made Bush look like a baby anyway. Are we reaching here or what? They're seriously trying to say he's lying about not making Jeb look bad? And then you've got stuff like this: > 40. Claim: “Only a fool would give a tax return [during an audit].” > Realty: Lawyers do advise against doing this. But nothing about being audited prevents Trump from releasing his tax records. So yeah, he's right that he shouldn't give out his tax return during an audit. What is he lying about here? He never said he couldn't, just that he shouldn't. If the disclaimer the HuffPo puts on every Trump article hasn't clued you in, they've clearly got an axe to grind against him and you're not exactly guaranteed to get unbiased reporting about him from them.
  - mozumder 10y ago
    Keep going. You have about 68 more to disqualify in order to prove that Trump isn't a liar.