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Dota2 has fixed this by removing the penalty for leaving once another player has abandoned. It's a simple fix and I'm surprised LoL hasn't done it.
by onetwotree 10y ago
Dota2 has fixed this by removing the penalty for leaving once another player has abandoned. It's a simple fix and I'm surprised LoL hasn't done it.
- arohner 10y agoThat only applies to unranked games. Ranked games you'll still lose MMR if a teammate abandons.
- yarou 10y agoThat depends, there are two distinct states. One is triggered if there are network connectivity issues, in which case the game isn't scored for anybody. This is to get around the MMR abusers that would queue bots to leave on the other team so they would get a quick win. The second state is usually triggered if a player has left after first blood. Even then, there are compensatory mechanisms. You lose less MMR than you would normally, and if a player leaves, your team will receive unreliable gold at a faster rate.
- gozur88 10y ago>This is to get around the MMR abusers that would queue bots to leave on the other team so they would get a quick win. Why would anyone do something like that? Every time you played a legit game you'd lose.
- yarou 10y agoIn order to sell a high MMR account. This explains why there is massive amounts of MMR inflation across regions. Prior to ranked matchmaking, the top 1% was typically around 4.2k hidden MMR. After ranked was introduced, it became closer to 5k. Now you have close to 8-9k MMR, because people are buying 5-6k accounts, and lose until they reach their true skill level (usually somewhere between 2-3k). The account buyer essentially feeds 3000 MMR to their opponents, which is why a 5k player back when ranked was introduced is now an 8k player.
- gozur88 10y agoI still don't get it. Why would you buy an account with an MMR that virtually guaranteed you'd lose nearly every game? Are masochists more numerous than I'd imagined?
- yarou 10y agoI imagine it's a form of Dunning-Kruger: account buyers feel that they are more skilled than the rating they received after calibration. There are also those who legitimately enjoy griefing dota: their account is probably so deep into low priority stacks that it is effectively banned. Or perhaps they are shadow banned into the bot/multi box pool. So they buy a new account to try and ruin games at high MMR.
- StavrosK 10y agoHow did they do that? You can't choose whom you queue with.
- chc 10y agoRiot are testing it for the case where somebody leaves early on. They don't want to allow it for mid-game abandons for fear that it will encourage players to gang up on their team's weakest link and flame him into abandoning so the rest of the team can leave without consequence.
- edem 10y agoThere is no point in this since there is a surrender option.
- dmoy 10y agoTo which trolls will never vote yes on, and since you need a supermajority it doesn't happen as early as it should a lot of the time.
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- onetwotree 10y agoThis is a strategy you see in unranked dota pubs, but it doesn't work against a team that's competent enough to rotate the weakest player out, pile into their lane, or use them as bait for counter ganks.