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Might be a little bit off topic, but the detached menu bar gradually pisses me off as screen gets bigger. It's really a long-distance travel for the mouse to cl

by riobard 17y ago

Might be a little bit off topic, but the detached menu bar gradually pisses me off as screen gets bigger. It's really a long-distance travel for the mouse to click the menu on a 1920x1200 screen. Now Apple is rolling out 27' iMac with an even bigger screen ... The situation gets even worse when I use multiple monitors as menu bar only shows on one of them.

paddy_m 17y ago
I agree. Fitt's law falls apart at high resolution
- seabee 17y ago
  I'm not convinced it falls apart. It seems more like a failure to take account for the distance you must travel on your return from the menu bar.
houseabsolute 17y ago
Interesting I have no problem with it on my 30" monitor. But then again I don't use the menus very often.
- riobard 17y ago
  I don't use menus often, either. I guess this design really forces app developers to carefully choose buttons and other widgets on the UI to avoid menu as much as possible. But on the occasions when menu is required, the experience sucks big on my dual-monitor setting. And there is no keyboard shortcut to ease the pain.
  - epochwolf 17y ago
    Use control+F2 to focus on the menu bar. :)
    - riobard 17y ago
      Yeah I know that trick ... but it's not quite the same as ALT+(underlined character of the menu item) thing on other systems. For fast typists, it's pretty awkward to hit the  first and then use arrow keys to move around. I wanna go directly to "File" menu by hitting SUPER+F, for example :|
      - epochwolf 17y ago
        Well you can hit control+f2 and then hit F for file. :)
        riobard 17y ago
        Yes I could do that ... but I left the F1-12 keys on my MacBook to its default, which controls dim the screen, volume and stuff like that. So to press CTRL+F2 I actually have to press FN+CTRL+F2. Try this combination on a MacBook (with only the left CTRL) and see how awkward it feels ... It completely screws the experience of "shortcuts".

by riobard 17y ago

paddy_m 17y ago

I agree. Fitt's law falls apart at high resolution

seabee 17y ago
I'm not convinced it falls apart. It seems more like a failure to take account for the distance you must travel on your return from the menu bar.

houseabsolute 17y ago

Interesting I have no problem with it on my 30" monitor. But then again I don't use the menus very often.

riobard 17y ago
I don't use menus often, either. I guess this design really forces app developers to carefully choose buttons and other widgets on the UI to avoid menu as much as possible. But on the occasions when menu is required, the experience sucks big on my dual-monitor setting. And there is no keyboard shortcut to ease the pain.
- epochwolf 17y ago
  Use control+F2 to focus on the menu bar. :)
  - riobard 17y ago
    Yeah I know that trick ... but it's not quite the same as ALT+(underlined character of the menu item) thing on other systems. For fast typists, it's pretty awkward to hit the  first and then use arrow keys to move around. I wanna go directly to "File" menu by hitting SUPER+F, for example :|
    - epochwolf 17y ago
      Well you can hit control+f2 and then hit F for file. :)
      - riobard 17y ago
        Yes I could do that ... but I left the F1-12 keys on my MacBook to its default, which controls dim the screen, volume and stuff like that. So to press CTRL+F2 I actually have to press FN+CTRL+F2. Try this combination on a MacBook (with only the left CTRL) and see how awkward it feels ... It completely screws the experience of "shortcuts".