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>It's sort of like defending the free speech of terrible groups like the KKK. There is a difference between protecting a group from being silenced by the Gover

>It's sort of like defending the free speech of terrible groups like the KKK. There is a difference between protecting a group from being silenced by the Government and holding a private company liable when they release a sex tape under the pretense of freedom of speech/freedom of the press. >I believe this will have a chilling effect on the media in the US. As well it should...its not exactly a slippery slope: sex tapes don't become newsworthy just because the subject is a celebrity.

smt88 10y ago
> sex tapes don't become newsworthy just because the subject is a celebrity What if the sex might have been non-consensual (see: Dominique Strauss-Kahn)? What if the sex is between a public official and his employee (see: Bill Clinton)? What if the sex is illegal (see: Eliot Spitzer)? The fact is that sex can be of interest to the public, which means video of that sex can also be of interest to the public.
- rwz 10y ago
  In all mentioned cases the sex becomes sexual assault, which is a felony. It's very different from adult people consensually enjoying themselves.
  - thaumasiotes 10y ago
    Sorry? Engaging a prostitute is sexual assault? How exactly is it "very different from adult people consensually enjoying themselves"?
- danielweber 10y ago
  Do let us know when that situation happens.
  - smt88 10y ago
    http://gawker.com/5741535/police-find-photographs-of-berlusconis-bunga-bunga-parties http://gawker.com/5741535/police-find-photographs-of-berlusc... (An irony that the first site that came up was Gawker)
    - danielweber 10y ago
      So where are the photos, like Gawker had on their front page? All I see is a report that it exists. Neither of the two links in the tweet were to stories showing the photos.
- will_brown 10y ago
  >What if the sex is illegal (see: Eliot Spitzer)? There is another type of illegal sex, the kind involving minors. And I don't care how news worthy anyone would deem it to be, even the most hardcore Free Speech absolutist usually goes quite confronted with that conundrum. The public's interest doesn't create protected speech.
- spriggan3 10y ago
  > What if the sex might have been non-consensual (see: Dominique Strauss-Kahn)? What if the sex is between a public official and his employee (see: Bill Clinton)? What if the sex is illegal (see: Eliot Spitzer)? Whataboutism. Hogan had the right to sue, he won, end of story. This isn't the government and a prosecution silencing Gawker, this is an individual against a corporation and he won.period.
  - smt88 10y ago
    "Whataboutism" is the bedrock of a legal system like ours. It's how you consider the consequences of a law in different edge cases that aren't as clear-cut as the current case.

smt88 10y ago

> sex tapes don't become newsworthy just because the subject is a celebrity What if the sex might have been non-consensual (see: Dominique Strauss-Kahn)? What if the sex is between a public official and his employee (see: Bill Clinton)? What if the sex is illegal (see: Eliot Spitzer)? The fact is that sex can be of interest to the public, which means video of that sex can also be of interest to the public.

rwz 10y ago
In all mentioned cases the sex becomes sexual assault, which is a felony. It's very different from adult people consensually enjoying themselves.
- thaumasiotes 10y ago
  Sorry? Engaging a prostitute is sexual assault? How exactly is it "very different from adult people consensually enjoying themselves"?
danielweber 10y ago
Do let us know when that situation happens.
- smt88 10y ago
  http://gawker.com/5741535/police-find-photographs-of-berlusconis-bunga-bunga-parties http://gawker.com/5741535/police-find-photographs-of-berlusc... (An irony that the first site that came up was Gawker)
  - danielweber 10y ago
    So where are the photos, like Gawker had on their front page? All I see is a report that it exists. Neither of the two links in the tweet were to stories showing the photos.
will_brown 10y ago
>What if the sex is illegal (see: Eliot Spitzer)? There is another type of illegal sex, the kind involving minors. And I don't care how news worthy anyone would deem it to be, even the most hardcore Free Speech absolutist usually goes quite confronted with that conundrum. The public's interest doesn't create protected speech.
spriggan3 10y ago
> What if the sex might have been non-consensual (see: Dominique Strauss-Kahn)? What if the sex is between a public official and his employee (see: Bill Clinton)? What if the sex is illegal (see: Eliot Spitzer)? Whataboutism. Hogan had the right to sue, he won, end of story. This isn't the government and a prosecution silencing Gawker, this is an individual against a corporation and he won.period.
- smt88 10y ago
  "Whataboutism" is the bedrock of a legal system like ours. It's how you consider the consequences of a law in different edge cases that aren't as clear-cut as the current case.