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Yes. Most people who aren't in the tech just launch a word processor (word, libreoffice, etc.) Tech people on Windows use Notepad or a similar GUI program. V

Yes. Most people who aren't in the tech just launch a word processor (word, libreoffice, etc.) Tech people on Windows use Notepad or a similar GUI program. Vim is used by a tiny, tiny fraction of people in the world.

Spivak 10y ago
> Tech people on Windows use Notepad. I'm always horrified to see this. MS really shot themselves in the foot with the dev community by not providing a powerful text editor as the default. Getting a WinAdmin to enjoy the UNIX'y way of doing things is like trying to feed a child broccoli.
- jandrese 10y ago
  Also cmd.exe being a steaming pile of shit and the handful of commandline utilities that ship by default are mostly ancient DOS versions from the 80s. There are a couple of gems (netsh for example), but commandline on Windows is just painful. Powershell does give you a lot more potential, but I've found its syntax to be too verbose to be a comfortable commandline replacement.
  - uxp 10y ago
    Powershell is an interesting environment. On one hand, it's almost a C#/CLR REPL with amazing power to program and script almost anything you could think of, but on the other it's not a shell and anyone coming from *nix that tries to think like a shell will be sorely disappointed in how verbose and unintuitive it behaves.
stephengillie 10y ago
> Tech people on Windows use Notepad. Tech people on Windows use Notepad++ when they can. Vim is rarely used outside of editing config files on appliances.
- ocdtrekkie 10y ago
  This. Notepad++ has been my goto for years. It's tabbed, it does some highlighting. Opens literally anything. I've never wanted for more than Notepad++ offers by default. And if I did... there's plugins. I know a bunch of people who swear by UltraEdit too. I think Notepad++ vs. UltraEdit is like the far tamer Windows version of Vim vs. Emacs.
  - stephengillie 10y ago
    I swear by Autosave. My favorite IDE is N++ and a Powershell window. I code in N++, then click on Powershell and reload the already-saved file. And a compare plugin does exist as well, it's functional.
MichaelGG 10y ago
ViEmu adds Vim to Office (Word/Outlook, SQL Server Management Studio, and Visual Studio. I wouldn't ever consider using a source editor without Vim support now (I started a few years ago and am amazed how awesome Vim is.)

Spivak 10y ago

> Tech people on Windows use Notepad. I'm always horrified to see this. MS really shot themselves in the foot with the dev community by not providing a powerful text editor as the default. Getting a WinAdmin to enjoy the UNIX'y way of doing things is like trying to feed a child broccoli.

jandrese 10y ago
Also cmd.exe being a steaming pile of shit and the handful of commandline utilities that ship by default are mostly ancient DOS versions from the 80s. There are a couple of gems (netsh for example), but commandline on Windows is just painful. Powershell does give you a lot more potential, but I've found its syntax to be too verbose to be a comfortable commandline replacement.
- uxp 10y ago
  Powershell is an interesting environment. On one hand, it's almost a C#/CLR REPL with amazing power to program and script almost anything you could think of, but on the other it's not a shell and anyone coming from *nix that tries to think like a shell will be sorely disappointed in how verbose and unintuitive it behaves.

stephengillie 10y ago

> Tech people on Windows use Notepad. Tech people on Windows use Notepad++ when they can. Vim is rarely used outside of editing config files on appliances.

ocdtrekkie 10y ago
This. Notepad++ has been my goto for years. It's tabbed, it does some highlighting. Opens literally anything. I've never wanted for more than Notepad++ offers by default. And if I did... there's plugins. I know a bunch of people who swear by UltraEdit too. I think Notepad++ vs. UltraEdit is like the far tamer Windows version of Vim vs. Emacs.
- stephengillie 10y ago
  I swear by Autosave. My favorite IDE is N++ and a Powershell window. I code in N++, then click on Powershell and reload the already-saved file. And a compare plugin does exist as well, it's functional.

MichaelGG 10y ago

ViEmu adds Vim to Office (Word/Outlook, SQL Server Management Studio, and Visual Studio. I wouldn't ever consider using a source editor without Vim support now (I started a few years ago and am amazed how awesome Vim is.)