Hn Hi I have been in the biz for 26 years and I am sorry to say that I have not see any rights for this. These are the references you are giving. On the other h

Hn Hi I have been in the biz for 26 years and I am sorry to say that I have not see any rights for this. These are the references you are giving. On the other hand its important to understand that lots of time signal are crossed between the reference check and reference giver. Meaning most companies use references to disqualify and that the reference checker may not ask followup questions to understand the context of the questionable information. That is not your problem, its the companies problem and they are missing great talent. For example I always ask a references this question. "Everyone has something they can improve on what can this candidates improve on?" Yesterday i received feedback on this question that was questionable. "The response was that you need to help the candidate to stay focus." HMMMMM that's not good, I said to my self is this +/- I need to explore more. I asked some follow up questions and I found out that the candidates requested help to fix a new AppSec too. The request was not followed up on by the reference in a timely fashion and the candidate fixed the tool's code to make it work : ) Long story short, I was able to gather from this reference that it was the references' responsibility not to waste this candidates time. So for the next employer, he said its important to respond quickly to his needs so you don't waste valuable Building, Breaking and Defending AppSec time. Because he is smart of enough to find and fix anything. So in essence, if I took what the reference at face value with out seeking to understand this would have been a mixed reference. Now I am able to educated the new hiring prospects on this feedback. Hn, you can only do so much so you might change up your references a bit to be safe but there is a lot out of yours and their control. Sorry and have a great weekend! Joel @doyouidentify