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I would agree, the native interface with hardware would be easier with native than the web. But the testing issues across all android devices is still an issue

I would agree, the native interface with hardware would be easier with native than the web. But the testing issues across all android devices is still an issue that the web should not have to contend with. And the Apple store issue is hard to quantify. You just don't know if they are going to let you in. The web means you don't have to get the user to install the app. Of course if you use cordova or phone gap you still have to do deal with those issues. I still cannot conceive when 2 separate apps are cheaper to maintain than one.

rimantas 10y ago
> You just don't know if they are going to let you in. You do know.
- padseeker 10y ago
  You won't know until AFTER you apply. You'll find out after. There are numerous HN posts where founders have submitted their app to Apple and have been forced to wait or resubmit. I can only shake my head at the venom being reserved for this post.
st3v3r 10y ago
"But the testing issues across all android devices is still an issue that the web should not have to contend with." And yet, it is. "And the Apple store issue is hard to quantify. You just don't know if they are going to let you in." Yeah, you do. It's pretty easy to read the rules. And things being flat out denied, rather than told they need to fix something, is really rare.
- padseeker 10y ago
  The number of permutations for testing scenarios across android versions as well as hardware manufacturers is significantly bigger than the number of available browsers. The difference between browsers is well documented and as far as I'm concerned finite. How many versions of Android are worth supporting? What about the differences between manufacturers. Browser differences are generally known and well documented. Can you say the same for Android? There are many scenarios where I agree it is significantly harder to create a user experience building a web app that can compare with the native experience. But the premise of the article is that it is cheaper to build on 2 separate native platforms than it is to build web app? The part that gets me is the author complains about things like multiple line ellipses and autocomplete text boxes. Here's a better question - why are multiple line ellipses core to your business? What value does a multiple line ellipse do for the app?

rimantas 10y ago

> You just don't know if they are going to let you in. You do know.

padseeker 10y ago
You won't know until AFTER you apply. You'll find out after. There are numerous HN posts where founders have submitted their app to Apple and have been forced to wait or resubmit. I can only shake my head at the venom being reserved for this post.

st3v3r 10y ago

"But the testing issues across all android devices is still an issue that the web should not have to contend with." And yet, it is. "And the Apple store issue is hard to quantify. You just don't know if they are going to let you in." Yeah, you do. It's pretty easy to read the rules. And things being flat out denied, rather than told they need to fix something, is really rare.

padseeker 10y ago
The number of permutations for testing scenarios across android versions as well as hardware manufacturers is significantly bigger than the number of available browsers. The difference between browsers is well documented and as far as I'm concerned finite. How many versions of Android are worth supporting? What about the differences between manufacturers. Browser differences are generally known and well documented. Can you say the same for Android? There are many scenarios where I agree it is significantly harder to create a user experience building a web app that can compare with the native experience. But the premise of the article is that it is cheaper to build on 2 separate native platforms than it is to build web app? The part that gets me is the author complains about things like multiple line ellipses and autocomplete text boxes. Here's a better question - why are multiple line ellipses core to your business? What value does a multiple line ellipse do for the app?