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Oh really? I seem to recall Ubuntu sending people's search results to Amazon. Why did they do that? They are a corporation and, thus, more concerned about money

by Esau 10y ago

Oh really? I seem to recall Ubuntu sending people's search results to Amazon. Why did they do that? They are a corporation and, thus, more concerned about money than freedom. My comment stands.

rpdillon 10y ago
To be fair, that was a default, but you can change it, or avoid it entirely by not installing the launcher developed by Canonical. Which was always both the strength and Achilles' Heel of Linux compared to other desktop OSes. For people that never install Unity (Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Gnome), it's simply not an issue. This is quite a bit different than, for example, the situation with Windows 10.
- dandelion_lover 10y ago
  >This is quite a bit different than, for example, the situation with Windows 10. The situation is different; but the direction is the same.
  - franciscop 10y ago
    But the direction are the opposite: 1. Canonical makes no money. 2. They introduce a "bad" feature to try to make money. 3. Users outrage so canonical makes it easy to cancel. 4. Users are still not happy so Canonical turns it off by default. vs 1. Microsoft makes s*loads of money from various sources. 2. They show an annoying popup urging users to upgrade to W10 (to make more money? to reduce support?). 3. They start forcing it by "closing is accepting". 4. They just start forcing it (according to many reports) so the users start creating tools to stop it.
    - dandelion_lover 10y ago
      The difference is that the users of Windows have no choice. Microsoft takes advantage of the situation. Canonical has no such advantage, but they surely would like to, according to this precedent.
      - hvis 10y ago
        That is too weak a precedent to be making a strong accusation like this. It was one misstep. They have done, and continue to do, a lot of things right.
franciscop 10y ago
They have changed that based on user input and that's about the only "bad" thing they have done AFAIK. That's why I wouldn't put them in the same bag.

by Esau 10y ago

Oh really? I seem to recall Ubuntu sending people's search results to Amazon. Why did they do that? They are a corporation and, thus, more concerned about money than freedom. My comment stands.

rpdillon 10y ago

To be fair, that was a default, but you can change it, or avoid it entirely by not installing the launcher developed by Canonical. Which was always both the strength and Achilles' Heel of Linux compared to other desktop OSes. For people that never install Unity (Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Gnome), it's simply not an issue. This is quite a bit different than, for example, the situation with Windows 10.

dandelion_lover 10y ago
>This is quite a bit different than, for example, the situation with Windows 10. The situation is different; but the direction is the same.
- franciscop 10y ago
  But the direction are the opposite: 1. Canonical makes no money. 2. They introduce a "bad" feature to try to make money. 3. Users outrage so canonical makes it easy to cancel. 4. Users are still not happy so Canonical turns it off by default. vs 1. Microsoft makes s*loads of money from various sources. 2. They show an annoying popup urging users to upgrade to W10 (to make more money? to reduce support?). 3. They start forcing it by "closing is accepting". 4. They just start forcing it (according to many reports) so the users start creating tools to stop it.
  - dandelion_lover 10y ago
    The difference is that the users of Windows have no choice. Microsoft takes advantage of the situation. Canonical has no such advantage, but they surely would like to, according to this precedent.
    - hvis 10y ago
      That is too weak a precedent to be making a strong accusation like this. It was one misstep. They have done, and continue to do, a lot of things right.

franciscop 10y ago

They have changed that based on user input and that's about the only "bad" thing they have done AFAIK. That's why I wouldn't put them in the same bag.