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>That's also another monopolistic practice: 1. Not leader on a market 2. Make yourself compatible with the leader Is this not, like, what half of the companies

>That's also another monopolistic practice: 1. Not leader on a market 2. Make yourself compatible with the leader Is this not, like, what half of the companies in the world do? If you were launching a new browser, would you not look to make it addon compatible with popular platforms? Of course Microsoft is playing catch-up! And where they are in the lead, they sorta leave it (look at C#). But I'm wondering what exactly you expect from any company, in general. I'll agree that Azure is a mess. A complete disappointment, especially since Dave Cutler's name was on it. Probably has some cool core tech, but what a pain to deal with, and expensive, too! Azure is more aimed at getting traditional companies paying MS monthly direct, vs their long chain of licensing for onprem. They'll make a lot of money. But against GCE? No contest.

icc97 10y ago
Genuine question - is Azure a mess? Have you got any articles you'd recommend? I'd generally heard good things about it.
- MichaelGG 10y ago
  In short, yes. The portals are a wreck. Every time I, or anyone I know, uses it, they are pissed off. It's just needlessly "Metro" and confusing. It's terribly slow, too. Machines take forever to startup. Their SSD story is a joke (requires special machine types on pre-sized arrays, instead of just a switch). It's far more expensive (2x to 10x GCE last I checked, depending on machine size). The networking is bizarre - all machines in a "service" share an IP. So their recommendation is to put SSH on different ports like 221, 222, 223, to get to a specific machine. Just silly. I really, really wanted to like Azure; it'd be good for AWS to have real competition. And I am very biased against Google. But GCE is just so superior. I suppose to see for yourself, try setting up a 3 node SSD Elasticsearch cluster on Azure and GCE. With GCE my experience is that it'll take significantly less time, even if you already know Azure and GCE.

icc97 10y ago

Genuine question - is Azure a mess? Have you got any articles you'd recommend? I'd generally heard good things about it.

MichaelGG 10y ago
In short, yes. The portals are a wreck. Every time I, or anyone I know, uses it, they are pissed off. It's just needlessly "Metro" and confusing. It's terribly slow, too. Machines take forever to startup. Their SSD story is a joke (requires special machine types on pre-sized arrays, instead of just a switch). It's far more expensive (2x to 10x GCE last I checked, depending on machine size). The networking is bizarre - all machines in a "service" share an IP. So their recommendation is to put SSH on different ports like 221, 222, 223, to get to a specific machine. Just silly. I really, really wanted to like Azure; it'd be good for AWS to have real competition. And I am very biased against Google. But GCE is just so superior. I suppose to see for yourself, try setting up a 3 node SSD Elasticsearch cluster on Azure and GCE. With GCE my experience is that it'll take significantly less time, even if you already know Azure and GCE.