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We've had a few Netflix candidates interview, seem a great fit for a position, made them an offer, and they just reject it and never talk to us again. W

by kylec 10y ago

We've had a few Netflix candidates interview, seem a great fit for a position, made them an offer, and they just reject it and never talk to us again. We started developing a theory that Netflix candidates are all just using the interviews as leverage instead of being actually interested in the job. Have you considered that you're offering them less than Netflix is currently paying them? Netflix pays a _lot_.

ninkendo 10y ago
It's possible, sure. I haven't been involved in the negotiation phase of any of the candidates so I couldn't tell you for sure how much back-and-forth there was. I can only tell you that the company I work for is very competitive here (think top 5 bay area companies.) But when you see that it's literally Netflix's message that employees should go interview somewhere and bring in the offer to get their salary bumped, it starts making you not trust that the candidates are actually serious. (Also I edited my comment after, but before I saw yours: We didn't just develop a theory about it, but there was a rumor that Netflix had this internal policy. I didn't believe it at first but here it is.)
- greg7gkb 10y ago
  Encouraging people to interview elsewhere isn't just about salary - it's more comprehensive than that. We only want to have people on our team who really want to be there. So people often leave their roles at Netflix to pursue other things. Many move to startups as early employees or founders so it's not at all just a question of compensation.
alexandercrohde 10y ago
This seems plausible. This is why essentials (salary range, core hours) should be discussed before or on a phone screen. 1. Looks like netflix pays 200-300k http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=netflix&job=&city=&year=All http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=netflix&job=&city=&year=All
- pfarnsworth 10y ago
  For senior software engineers, they pay ~$400k. Source: friend works there.
  - alexc05 10y ago
    That's a jaw dropping amount.
    - rayiner 10y ago
      It's not. Netflix has a revenue per employee figure in the $2m+ range. That's investment bank levels of revenue, and $400k is about what you make at an investment bank 5-7 years out.
      - marssaxman 10y ago
        It is. Software developers are not investment bankers. Software development jobs offering $400K are... not normal.
        rayiner 10y ago
        Software companies are making investment bank levels of money these days, so why should it be surprising when software developers are getting paid like investment bankers? What should be more surprising is software companies making $1m+ per employee where developers aren't paid like that.
        marssaxman 10y ago
        I'm not talking about ideals, I'm talking about typical practices.
        sokoloff 10y ago
        Yet value-creation in the range of $1MM/year is not that uncommon for a company in financial services or streaming media.

by kylec 10y ago

ninkendo 10y ago

It's possible, sure. I haven't been involved in the negotiation phase of any of the candidates so I couldn't tell you for sure how much back-and-forth there was. I can only tell you that the company I work for is very competitive here (think top 5 bay area companies.) But when you see that it's literally Netflix's message that employees should go interview somewhere and bring in the offer to get their salary bumped, it starts making you not trust that the candidates are actually serious. (Also I edited my comment after, but before I saw yours: We didn't just develop a theory about it, but there was a rumor that Netflix had this internal policy. I didn't believe it at first but here it is.)

greg7gkb 10y ago
Encouraging people to interview elsewhere isn't just about salary - it's more comprehensive than that. We only want to have people on our team who really want to be there. So people often leave their roles at Netflix to pursue other things. Many move to startups as early employees or founders so it's not at all just a question of compensation.

alexandercrohde 10y ago

This seems plausible. This is why essentials (salary range, core hours) should be discussed before or on a phone screen. 1. Looks like netflix pays 200-300k http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=netflix&job=&city=&year=All http://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=netflix&job=&city=&year=All

pfarnsworth 10y ago
For senior software engineers, they pay ~$400k. Source: friend works there.
- alexc05 10y ago
  That's a jaw dropping amount.
  - rayiner 10y ago
    It's not. Netflix has a revenue per employee figure in the $2m+ range. That's investment bank levels of revenue, and $400k is about what you make at an investment bank 5-7 years out.
    - marssaxman 10y ago
      It is. Software developers are not investment bankers. Software development jobs offering $400K are... not normal.
      - rayiner 10y ago
        Software companies are making investment bank levels of money these days, so why should it be surprising when software developers are getting paid like investment bankers? What should be more surprising is software companies making $1m+ per employee where developers aren't paid like that.
        marssaxman 10y ago
        I'm not talking about ideals, I'm talking about typical practices.
      - sokoloff 10y ago
        Yet value-creation in the range of $1MM/year is not that uncommon for a company in financial services or streaming media.