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> You can double your salary by finding a second job. You'll make $310K/year, work 80+ hours a week. That's not even as easy as you mention it though, is it? I

> You can double your salary by finding a second job. You'll make $310K/year, work 80+ hours a week. That's not even as easy as you mention it though, is it? If it's a regular office job, that implies you won't be in the office at the same time everyone else is. Which means you won't be getting the job (or will be fired).

drewrv 10y ago
OP says they work remote. One could get two remote jobs, and choose employers based on their time zone such that their business hours don't overlap much. But the point stands: this would be a terrible way to live.
- tluyben2 10y ago
  It would be hell imho. I worked 2 '9-5' jobs for a brief moment in my high school years; strawberry picking in the morning (5-14ish without break) and working in a distribution center (16-1ish with a break); that was hard, but it made a lot of money and was mind numbing so I was doing assembler in my head (ah to be young :) and writing assembly / drawing game sprites on scraps of paper in my pocket. It was ok. Many years ago (<2000) I worked on one fulltime job remotely and then had another fulltime in the evening; that was coding; Java during the day, Delphi in the evening. That was extremely hard; no time for your brain to let up and (my pet peeve) you cannot walk during coding, wrecking for your body. Although I did sports for 1 hour in between, it didn't really help; because your mind is spinning all the time you cannot really relax. Also sometimes one job (because of the nature of programming), jobs bleed over into eachother; you will have missed a mini deadline for job 1 and then you will have to either tell them you're late or job 2 you're late; strawberry picking or distribution centers have no deadlines as such. Offtopic; What I took from it is that when I first worked those hours; a) it was physical work which kept my body ok (strawberry picking is hell on some people though; I didn't mind it) b) because my programming target (MSX with Z80) was completely kept in my head; all assembly instructions (I still know most of the hex codes and all assembly codes), VDP (video display proc), relevant parts of the BIOS and sound processor instructions were easily kept in my head so I could code during walking. This became impossible around the end of the 80s. Although I do still program the MSX (and others) for fun, my personal goal is not to go back to the 80s but to make programming in my head possible again. Not sure if i'll ever get there but I will die trying.
  - wocg 10y ago
    make programming in my head possible again. Not sure if i'll ever get there but I will die trying Is it due to age that you can no longer do this, or something else? Good luck with it! I've never actually "programmed in my head", but I definitely think about my projects while out hiking or whatever.
    - tluyben2 10y ago
      It is because of the many many libaries you need now to make something. When I get to write embedded or doing algorithms then I do my best work walking in nature but that is only like 10% of the job. The rest involves looking up library docs or stackoverflow help for badly written, fast changing libraries. The last time it worked were Django APIs. Django is actually stable and we use only multi year stable libs. But frontend: I cannot remember the 1000s of edge cases and they also change per library often. Outside JQuery I guess.
  - cl42 10y ago
    I agree, it would be hell. This is why it's important to determine what your goals are: make as much money as possible at any cost, or...?
- wfunction 10y ago
  I'm saying finding such jobs is hard even if it sounds like heaven to you. It's not like the only significant issue is willpower.

drewrv 10y ago

OP says they work remote. One could get two remote jobs, and choose employers based on their time zone such that their business hours don't overlap much. But the point stands: this would be a terrible way to live.

tluyben2 10y ago
It would be hell imho. I worked 2 '9-5' jobs for a brief moment in my high school years; strawberry picking in the morning (5-14ish without break) and working in a distribution center (16-1ish with a break); that was hard, but it made a lot of money and was mind numbing so I was doing assembler in my head (ah to be young :) and writing assembly / drawing game sprites on scraps of paper in my pocket. It was ok. Many years ago (<2000) I worked on one fulltime job remotely and then had another fulltime in the evening; that was coding; Java during the day, Delphi in the evening. That was extremely hard; no time for your brain to let up and (my pet peeve) you cannot walk during coding, wrecking for your body. Although I did sports for 1 hour in between, it didn't really help; because your mind is spinning all the time you cannot really relax. Also sometimes one job (because of the nature of programming), jobs bleed over into eachother; you will have missed a mini deadline for job 1 and then you will have to either tell them you're late or job 2 you're late; strawberry picking or distribution centers have no deadlines as such. Offtopic; What I took from it is that when I first worked those hours; a) it was physical work which kept my body ok (strawberry picking is hell on some people though; I didn't mind it) b) because my programming target (MSX with Z80) was completely kept in my head; all assembly instructions (I still know most of the hex codes and all assembly codes), VDP (video display proc), relevant parts of the BIOS and sound processor instructions were easily kept in my head so I could code during walking. This became impossible around the end of the 80s. Although I do still program the MSX (and others) for fun, my personal goal is not to go back to the 80s but to make programming in my head possible again. Not sure if i'll ever get there but I will die trying.
- wocg 10y ago
  make programming in my head possible again. Not sure if i'll ever get there but I will die trying Is it due to age that you can no longer do this, or something else? Good luck with it! I've never actually "programmed in my head", but I definitely think about my projects while out hiking or whatever.
  - tluyben2 10y ago
    It is because of the many many libaries you need now to make something. When I get to write embedded or doing algorithms then I do my best work walking in nature but that is only like 10% of the job. The rest involves looking up library docs or stackoverflow help for badly written, fast changing libraries. The last time it worked were Django APIs. Django is actually stable and we use only multi year stable libs. But frontend: I cannot remember the 1000s of edge cases and they also change per library often. Outside JQuery I guess.
- cl42 10y ago
  I agree, it would be hell. This is why it's important to determine what your goals are: make as much money as possible at any cost, or...?
wfunction 10y ago
I'm saying finding such jobs is hard even if it sounds like heaven to you. It's not like the only significant issue is willpower.