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Python + Lisp = Thnake (live-CD Linux distribution with pre-configured dev env)

19 points by alrex021 17y ago

zitterbewegung 17y ago
Someone should put clojure on this.
- morphir 17y ago
  someone should put tail recursion in clojure..
  - hga 17y ago
    It's there with e.g. the recur kludge (which some people prefer, instead of the implicit style where if you get the position wrong you blow your stack) and real support is waiting for support in the JVM, which with any luck will happen in the next version of Java.
  - rikthevik 17y ago
    I find clojure's current approach to tail recursion to work very well. Maybe I'm just not functional enough, but I'm not sure why function calls that don't push a stack frame should be done the same way as a regular function call. Doing a tail call explicitly is fine, and seems to work okay. Why is the demand for tail calls so great?
    - hga 17y ago
      It has a certain elegance and conciseness and having different syntax for recur and the mutual recursion trampoline is perhaps more than inelegant. Every little thing you add to a language makes it that much more difficult to remember and correctly use everything. The closer Clojure stays to Scheme in the Scheme to Common Lisp continuum the better.
bmelton 17y ago
I don't know jack diddly about the project, but good lord do I love the name.
Estragon 17y ago
I don't really understand the point. Seems like a set of reliable install scripts for various distributions would have a much bigger impact.
- hga 17y ago
  True, but that's a lot of never ending work. If you control the horizontal and vertical you can I imagine without too much work achieve this narrow "it just works" goal. One of my current projects is targeted at Xen; I can see myself taking the same approach someday.
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jtth 17y ago
oh god how do i save
- jcl 17y ago
  Puppy Linux (on which Thnake is based) recommends thumb drive, although it sounds like mounted hard drives or network storage are also feasible: http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?file=Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?file=Overview%20and%20G...
astine 17y ago
I can see a number of uses for something lilke this, but I don't understand why someone would put web-dev libraries on a live-cd. There are so many better uses.
zephyrfalcon 17y ago
An interesting idea, but this seems more like something intended for the author's personal use. Pretty much anybody else is going to want different libraries, especially for Python, which has many GUI and web dev packages. So you'll end up installing your own stuff anyway...

19 points by alrex021 17y ago

zitterbewegung 17y ago

Someone should put clojure on this.

morphir 17y ago
someone should put tail recursion in clojure..
- hga 17y ago
  It's there with e.g. the recur kludge (which some people prefer, instead of the implicit style where if you get the position wrong you blow your stack) and real support is waiting for support in the JVM, which with any luck will happen in the next version of Java.
- rikthevik 17y ago
  I find clojure's current approach to tail recursion to work very well. Maybe I'm just not functional enough, but I'm not sure why function calls that don't push a stack frame should be done the same way as a regular function call. Doing a tail call explicitly is fine, and seems to work okay. Why is the demand for tail calls so great?
  - hga 17y ago
    It has a certain elegance and conciseness and having different syntax for recur and the mutual recursion trampoline is perhaps more than inelegant. Every little thing you add to a language makes it that much more difficult to remember and correctly use everything. The closer Clojure stays to Scheme in the Scheme to Common Lisp continuum the better.

bmelton 17y ago

I don't know jack diddly about the project, but good lord do I love the name.

Estragon 17y ago

I don't really understand the point. Seems like a set of reliable install scripts for various distributions would have a much bigger impact.

hga 17y ago
True, but that's a lot of never ending work. If you control the horizontal and vertical you can I imagine without too much work achieve this narrow "it just works" goal. One of my current projects is targeted at Xen; I can see myself taking the same approach someday.

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jtth 17y ago

oh god how do i save

jcl 17y ago
Puppy Linux (on which Thnake is based) recommends thumb drive, although it sounds like mounted hard drives or network storage are also feasible: http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?file=Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?file=Overview%20and%20G...

astine 17y ago

I can see a number of uses for something lilke this, but I don't understand why someone would put web-dev libraries on a live-cd. There are so many better uses.

zephyrfalcon 17y ago

An interesting idea, but this seems more like something intended for the author's personal use. Pretty much anybody else is going to want different libraries, especially for Python, which has many GUI and web dev packages. So you'll end up installing your own stuff anyway...