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Islam has many references about seeking knowledge, probably best expressed in the hadiths (Al-Tirmidhi 74 and 108 for example) but also found to some extent in
by soundwave106 10y ago
Islam has many references about seeking knowledge, probably best expressed in the hadiths (Al-Tirmidhi 74 and 108 for example) but also found to some extent in the Quran. With learned knowledge (eg science) in the Arabic world at a very low point these days, it's clear that your answer is pretty much #1.
Yes, an Ataturk direction would be a good direction to go. It is true as another poster mentioned that Judaism's rather barbaric Old Testament is tempered by knowledge-seeking scholarly tradition in Judaism and the reforms of the New Testament in Christianity. Too much of Islam does not have much of this at the moment, in fact, recent history has somewhat undone the reforms first undertaken by the Ottoman empire (mixed civil based on French law and sharia, a system still in some countries like Jordan) and the later reforms of Ataturk.
Ataturk's perspective is good to note. He was very much against political Islam. He did not seem to be against Islam itself (and in fact encouraged study by sponsoring and radio-reading Quran translations etc.). Actually, he felt religion was an important institution, if I recall, but it should be personal, and not magical, superstitious, or archaic.
Part of the reason why I really don't care about trying to prove one religion has more violent text than another, is that I believe anti-rational, political oriented religious fundamentalism is a danger period, no matter what the form. It is not "equal" at the moment, by far. But in the US we have too many Christian fundamentalist pointing fingers at the horrors of Islamic fundamentalism... while simultaneously trying to lead us in that direction. I don't want American Christians to take us where Islam went 750 years ago.
- acqq 10y ago> But in the US we have too many Christian fundamentalist pointing fingers at the horrors of Islamic fundamentalism If your political opponents speak the truth, you still shouldn't lie! If you do, you are the one who actually motivate otherwise moderate voters to vote for those who actually speak the truth, even if their hidden (or less visible) goals are much worse. People still don't want being too openly lied. > I don't want American Christians to take us where Islam went 750 years ago. Well there are already enough (enough to be dangerous for the whole world, again because of the influence and money, just like Saudis and other rich entities in Islam world) American Christians that are anyway at least 350 years behind Europe with their ideas, denying effectively everything that the science discovered since Galileo: that's how much they have to deny to be able to claim that the Earth exists only 6000 years. As far as I understand, any European Christian believer that claims something like that got his Kool Aid from across the Atlantic. If Ataturk would be alive today in the US, he would be declared by the right and as the left atheistic extremist for enforcing secularism and by the left as the pure right extremist for trying to limit the unquestioned expansion of influence of the political Islam. Awful, as he achieved almost 100 years ago what today in the US looks impossible only because of such partisan thinking like the one you displayed: "but the other side says that, then we can't, even if it's true." Really?