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Couldn't Google offer defense in such cases for its users? Every case is the same so it shouldn't even be that expensive (I guess, IANAL), and it would discoura

by comboy 10y ago

Couldn't Google offer defense in such cases for its users? Every case is the same so it shouldn't even be that expensive (I guess, IANAL), and it would discourage future cases because the troll would know he will have to fight against Google.

oddevan 10y ago
I do feel like when a similar thing happened with the iOS App Store (app devs sued for using in-app purchases), Apple tried to insert itself into the case saying that all the technology used was theirs.
rhino369 10y ago
Yea they could in multiple ways. They could sue to the troll for a declaratory judgement of invalidity and non infringement. Or they just indemnify their app stor developers for any patent liability caused by using their product.
- ikeboy 10y ago
  >Or they just indemnify their app stor developers for any patent liability caused by using their product. What about actual patent violations?
  - matthewmacleod 10y ago
    IANAL, but I don't think there's a reason they couldn't indemnify against patent lawsuits regarding the distribution of applications through their services, while not indemnifying for patent violations in the applications themselves.
  - anthonybsd 10y ago
    >their product "Their" in this case being "Google Play" product and any liability arising from the use of thereof.
tommoor 10y ago
Good guy Google should definitely be stepping in here
- droidist2 10y ago
  I won't hold my breath
Shivetya 10y ago
I guess I am stupid, why isn't Google the defendant, other than the fact they have too much money. This is like being sued for shopping at the wrong store.
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- vermontdevil 10y ago
  Because it's easier to make money going after small business knowing these business can't afford a lawsuit. One of these troll companies made $30 million a year doing this and they are even listed on the stock exchange!!
  - SZJX 10y ago
    Which listed company is that though
- developer2 10y ago
  The problem is that the "patent" (fucking loose term of the word for something that should never have been allowed to be filed) is about the use of the code in question. It's not the App Store that is supposedly infringing, it's the use of the App Store. What a joke.
  - brandonm64 10y ago
    Doesn't Google use the Play Store to distribute their own apps like Sheets, Docs, Drive etc.
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    - angry-hacker 10y ago
      Yes but they are not going to sue Google, that is the problem
rwhitman 10y ago
Or at least they could join with some other companies to pool money towards a software trade association with real teeth that we can rely on to represent our industry's interests when it's under attack like this. It's appalling how limp this business is when it comes to demonstrating political muscle

by comboy 10y ago

oddevan 10y ago

I do feel like when a similar thing happened with the iOS App Store (app devs sued for using in-app purchases), Apple tried to insert itself into the case saying that all the technology used was theirs.

rhino369 10y ago

Yea they could in multiple ways. They could sue to the troll for a declaratory judgement of invalidity and non infringement. Or they just indemnify their app stor developers for any patent liability caused by using their product.

ikeboy 10y ago
>Or they just indemnify their app stor developers for any patent liability caused by using their product. What about actual patent violations?
- matthewmacleod 10y ago
  IANAL, but I don't think there's a reason they couldn't indemnify against patent lawsuits regarding the distribution of applications through their services, while not indemnifying for patent violations in the applications themselves.
- anthonybsd 10y ago
  >their product "Their" in this case being "Google Play" product and any liability arising from the use of thereof.

tommoor 10y ago

Good guy Google should definitely be stepping in here

droidist2 10y ago
I won't hold my breath

Shivetya 10y ago

I guess I am stupid, why isn't Google the defendant, other than the fact they have too much money. This is like being sued for shopping at the wrong store.

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vermontdevil 10y ago
Because it's easier to make money going after small business knowing these business can't afford a lawsuit. One of these troll companies made $30 million a year doing this and they are even listed on the stock exchange!!
- SZJX 10y ago
  Which listed company is that though
developer2 10y ago
The problem is that the "patent" (fucking loose term of the word for something that should never have been allowed to be filed) is about the use of the code in question. It's not the App Store that is supposedly infringing, it's the use of the App Store. What a joke.
- brandonm64 10y ago
  Doesn't Google use the Play Store to distribute their own apps like Sheets, Docs, Drive etc.
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  - angry-hacker 10y ago
    Yes but they are not going to sue Google, that is the problem

rwhitman 10y ago

Or at least they could join with some other companies to pool money towards a software trade association with real teeth that we can rely on to represent our industry's interests when it's under attack like this. It's appalling how limp this business is when it comes to demonstrating political muscle