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> There's pretty extensive evidence of an attempt to impersonate him here. What? Where? Just because of the github account that they chose? The site doesn't sa
by jordigh 10y ago
> There's pretty extensive evidence of an attempt to impersonate him here.
What? Where? Just because of the github account that they chose? The site doesn't say that Jacob Appelbaum wrote any of it. They call themselves a victims' collective:
http://jacobappelbaum.net/#faq http://jacobappelbaum.net/#faq
I am guessing that they chose to plaster Jacob's face all over it just to make the site about him, and I find it very credible that most victims would want to remain anonymous given the kind of hounding and harassment that they are likely to receive otherwise:
How old are you? How much do you weigh? What did you eat that day?
Well what did you have for dinner? Who made dinner? Did you drink
with dinner? No, not even water? When did you drink? How much did
you drink? What container did you drink out of? Who gave you the
drink? How much do you usually drink? Who dropped you off at this
party? At what time? But where exactly? What were you wearing? Why
were you going to this party? What’ d you do when you got there?
Are you sure you did that? But what time did you do that? What
does this text mean? Who were you texting? When did you urinate?
Where did you urinate? With whom did you urinate outside? Was your
phone on silent when your sister called? Do you remember silencing
it? Really because on page 53 I’d like to point out that you said
it was set to ring. Did you drink in college? You said you were a
party animal? How many times did you black out? Did you party at
frats? Are you serious with your boyfriend? Are you sexually
active with him? When did you start dating? Would you ever cheat?
Do you have a history of cheating? What do you mean when you said
you wanted to reward him? Do you remember what time you woke up?
Were you wearing your cardigan? What color was your cardigan? Do
you remember any more from that night? No? Okay, well, we’ll let
Brock fill it in.
- Kristine1975 10y agoThe fucked up barrage of questions is from here, btw: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/06/04/you-took-away-my-worth-a-rape-victim-delivers-powerful-message-to-a-former-stanford-swimmer/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/06/04...
- Bartweiss 10y agoThe github account, along with a 'tweet' button that explicitly misleads about the nature of the site, and a twitter account that put out threats while claiming to be associated with the victims (who rejected those threats). If this isn't an attempt to mislead, I could understand the website choice as a way to increase visibility for an important concern, but the choice of github account and tweet trouble me. I wouldn't want to click that tweet link and have a claim under my name that misrepresented what I was putting out. None of this is germane to what Appelbaum did - I have no reason to distrust Nick Farr or others, nor do I see any evidence this is an act by alleged victims instead of some other party. But there's still a clear attempt to impersonate and mislead, and I worry that it's going to do more harm to the victims and community than anything else. (I want to be very clear here. My reaction to the apparent impersonation is entirely distinct from any views on Appelbaum, the abuse claims, Nick Farr's post, or the Tor project's formal response. The extensive quote from the story of an unrelated assault makes me worry that you think I'm trivializing the victims; I am not in any way speaking to their claims or actions.)
- jordigh 10y agoOh, you're talking about the original way that the website and Twitter account were created, which has since changed. I had to rtfa to see what you were referring to.
- Bartweiss 10y agoOh gotcha. I started from the article (because I missed the initial furor), hence my confusion. Yeah, the initial day(s) of the website and account are what makes me uncomfortable, not the ongoing claims. Those seem depressingly widespread and well substantiated.
- PavlovsCat 10y ago> I missed the initial furor Here you go, in a way: https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor/blob/master/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor.md https://github.com/Enegnei/JacobAppelbaumLeavesTor/blob/mast...