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Apple's accessories are already bluetooth. I'm working with a magic trackpad 2 here and it skips all the time, as expected. Magic trackpad 1 did the same. So di

by joesmo 10y ago

Apple's accessories are already bluetooth. I'm working with a magic trackpad 2 here and it skips all the time, as expected. Magic trackpad 1 did the same. So did my previous kinesis bluetooth keyboard. So does audio. Oh right, it's OS X that can't handle bluetooth. Or RF in the case of Logitech products. Hell, they have trouble keeping wifi on. What you wish for is already here and it's already shitty, at least on OS X.

tblt 10y ago
My Bluetooth devices work flawlessly with my iMac, including the Magic Mouse/KB etc. What's your RF environment like?
- haikuginger 10y ago
  > What's your RF environment like? That's what my initial thought was too. Sounds like severe 2.4GHz pollution.
- joesmo 10y ago
  I'd say it's the environment too, but this happens at various locations across the country consistently with multiple types of Macbooks. Also, at these same exact locations, I have no problem using bluetooth with my Android phone, further reducing the likelihood that it's the environment. Finally, all the threads about OS X bugs relating to BT/RF/WiFi problems that have been reported for years but ignored by Apple, including reports by Apple's own beta testers, are a further indication that this is an actual problem and that a lot of people are having it.
  - jon-wood 10y ago
    I've had issues with a non-bluetooth wireless keyboard when plugging the receiver into my laptop directly which go away when it's connected via a USB hub a little distance away, which makes me think the laptop itself is causing interference.
    - FireBeyond 10y ago
      I do similar. I have my dock which has a USB extension cable that runs under the underside of my desk and basically sits directly underneath the mouse and keyboard. Connectivity issues vanished.
lowtolerance 10y ago
OS X has great support for Bluetooth, and Bluetooth mice and keyboards do not typically have the "skipping" issue you are describing.
- joesmo 10y ago
  The "it works for most people so we won't bother acknowledging or fixing it" defense is indeed Apple's position on this, but when you have a significant number of people experiencing this for multiple years (at least 5) on multiple OS versions on a multi-thousand dollar machine, it brings to question the quality of said machine. The problem is so bad, there's software out there to compensate for it (http://smoothmouse.com/ http://smoothmouse.com/) which obviously is a band aid that only works for some. So no, it's not a defensible position as it renders the $3000 machine useless, similarly to how a $3000 car whose steering wheel steers randomly would render it useless.
abritinthebay 10y ago
> it's OS X that can't handle bluetooth This is laughable wrong. You clearly have either a) issues with your peripherals or b) an incredibly saturated wireless signal environment. OSX is practically the gold standard of BT integration - it's seamless for almost every application.

by joesmo 10y ago

tblt 10y ago

My Bluetooth devices work flawlessly with my iMac, including the Magic Mouse/KB etc. What's your RF environment like?

haikuginger 10y ago
> What's your RF environment like? That's what my initial thought was too. Sounds like severe 2.4GHz pollution.
joesmo 10y ago
I'd say it's the environment too, but this happens at various locations across the country consistently with multiple types of Macbooks. Also, at these same exact locations, I have no problem using bluetooth with my Android phone, further reducing the likelihood that it's the environment. Finally, all the threads about OS X bugs relating to BT/RF/WiFi problems that have been reported for years but ignored by Apple, including reports by Apple's own beta testers, are a further indication that this is an actual problem and that a lot of people are having it.
- jon-wood 10y ago
  I've had issues with a non-bluetooth wireless keyboard when plugging the receiver into my laptop directly which go away when it's connected via a USB hub a little distance away, which makes me think the laptop itself is causing interference.
  - FireBeyond 10y ago
    I do similar. I have my dock which has a USB extension cable that runs under the underside of my desk and basically sits directly underneath the mouse and keyboard. Connectivity issues vanished.

lowtolerance 10y ago

OS X has great support for Bluetooth, and Bluetooth mice and keyboards do not typically have the "skipping" issue you are describing.

joesmo 10y ago
The "it works for most people so we won't bother acknowledging or fixing it" defense is indeed Apple's position on this, but when you have a significant number of people experiencing this for multiple years (at least 5) on multiple OS versions on a multi-thousand dollar machine, it brings to question the quality of said machine. The problem is so bad, there's software out there to compensate for it (http://smoothmouse.com/ http://smoothmouse.com/) which obviously is a band aid that only works for some. So no, it's not a defensible position as it renders the $3000 machine useless, similarly to how a $3000 car whose steering wheel steers randomly would render it useless.

abritinthebay 10y ago

> it's OS X that can't handle bluetooth This is laughable wrong. You clearly have either a) issues with your peripherals or b) an incredibly saturated wireless signal environment. OSX is practically the gold standard of BT integration - it's seamless for almost every application.