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I hate to sound negative, but what does it offer over yeoman and the individual generators out there? If I use a Mega Boilerplate setup, I lose scaffolding post

by dvcc 10y ago

I hate to sound negative, but what does it offer over yeoman and the individual generators out there? If I use a Mega Boilerplate setup, I lose scaffolding post-setup stage, so what do I gain?

projectramo 10y ago
I agree that it serves almost the same purpose, but for a beginner, seeing all the layers, what they do, and choosing them piecemeal is a great way to learn quickly before graduating to the yeoman ecosystem.
- blowski 10y ago
  Yep - I get confused between Grunt, Gulp, Yeoman, Bower, Node, React, Angular, jQuery, TypeScript. How do these things fit together? Why would I choose one over another? As a predominantly backend developer, If I just want to have a 2016-style workflow for the frontend part of my site, it's really hard!
- underwater 10y ago
  I used React Starter Kit for a project and greatly regretted it. In the end I would have been better off taking the time to learn how the parts fit together myself. With the boilerplate I was locked into the questionable decisions and brittle implementation of the original author. Changing anything usually broke my app and because I had taken the starter kit shortcut I didn't have the understanding of how to fix it.
  - projectramo 10y ago
    I think of the download button as optional. What I like about the site is the visualization. So, for instance, you know that Express is an alternative to Meteor, not a complement. And that Jade/Handlebars work with Express and are alternatives to each other. Just having that for all the combination of names is valuable. Basically, it helps you understand the taxonomy.
- dvcc 10y ago
  There are a decent amount of yeoman generators that allow selections between the different layers. Plus I feel like beginners (certainly for me at least) generally struggle with this heavy boilerplate anyway.
aavotins 10y ago
For me(I maintain a purely platonic relationship with JS) it offers an easy choice. An example: I don't have to choose MongoDB over Postgres just because the Yeoman generator that actually has all the items I want, decided to go with NoSQL.
vthallam 10y ago
It's more intuitive for beginners and if more stacks(Django/Laravel etc) are added, this would be a good way to select stacks and generate boilerplate.

by dvcc 10y ago

I hate to sound negative, but what does it offer over yeoman and the individual generators out there? If I use a Mega Boilerplate setup, I lose scaffolding post-setup stage, so what do I gain?

projectramo 10y ago

I agree that it serves almost the same purpose, but for a beginner, seeing all the layers, what they do, and choosing them piecemeal is a great way to learn quickly before graduating to the yeoman ecosystem.

blowski 10y ago
Yep - I get confused between Grunt, Gulp, Yeoman, Bower, Node, React, Angular, jQuery, TypeScript. How do these things fit together? Why would I choose one over another? As a predominantly backend developer, If I just want to have a 2016-style workflow for the frontend part of my site, it's really hard!
underwater 10y ago
I used React Starter Kit for a project and greatly regretted it. In the end I would have been better off taking the time to learn how the parts fit together myself. With the boilerplate I was locked into the questionable decisions and brittle implementation of the original author. Changing anything usually broke my app and because I had taken the starter kit shortcut I didn't have the understanding of how to fix it.
- projectramo 10y ago
  I think of the download button as optional. What I like about the site is the visualization. So, for instance, you know that Express is an alternative to Meteor, not a complement. And that Jade/Handlebars work with Express and are alternatives to each other. Just having that for all the combination of names is valuable. Basically, it helps you understand the taxonomy.
dvcc 10y ago
There are a decent amount of yeoman generators that allow selections between the different layers. Plus I feel like beginners (certainly for me at least) generally struggle with this heavy boilerplate anyway.

aavotins 10y ago

For me(I maintain a purely platonic relationship with JS) it offers an easy choice. An example: I don't have to choose MongoDB over Postgres just because the Yeoman generator that actually has all the items I want, decided to go with NoSQL.

vthallam 10y ago

It's more intuitive for beginners and if more stacks(Django/Laravel etc) are added, this would be a good way to select stacks and generate boilerplate.