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>Are you aware of any company in Oracle's position that did not sue Sun Microsystems, obviously

by krasin 10y ago

lmz 10y ago
So, how did that work out for them?
- Natsu 10y ago
  They got a huge buyout while everyone with a clue left the company, as I heard the story.
- Oletros 10y ago
  So, what was the outcome of Oracle vs Google?
  - pron 10y ago
    Oracle made many arguments -- patent and copyright infringement. The patent claims were rejected, but after an appeal, the appeals court ruled that language-level APIs (i.e, not REST APIs or other protocols) are copyrightable, at which point (another) court debated the question of fair use by Google, and ruled in Google's favor (i.e, that their use of Java's API does not constitute an infringement of the API's copyright). Oracle have announced their decision to appeal the ruling. In the meantime, though, it seems like Android is about to adopt Oracle's OpenJDK, under the open-source license granted by Oracle.
    - Oletros 10y ago
      OpenJDK was released by Sun, not by Oracle.
      - pron 10y ago
        I didn't say it was released by Oracle; It is owned by Oracle and licensed by them to Google and anyone else by the GPL to do with as they please.
pron 10y ago
Obviously not. They didn't have the resources or the time to sue; they were on the brink of collapse and already involved in talks of acquisition. Google fully expected them to sue[1], but got a reprieve due to Sun's troubles. Android was released in September 2008, with the first phone in November. At that time Sun was in acquisition talks with IBM (and maybe HP), which fell through in 3/09. In 4/09 -- about six months after Android was released -- they announced their agreement with Oracle[1]. That's hardly enough time to even prepare such a lawsuit, let alone carry it through, and obviously Sun had much greater concerns at the time. [1]: Because no such action had ever gone un-sued. [2]: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle#Hist...

>Are you aware of any company in Oracle's position that did not sue Sun Microsystems, obviously

by krasin 10y ago

>Are you aware of any company in Oracle's position that did not sue Sun Microsystems, obviously

lmz 10y ago

So, how did that work out for them?

Natsu 10y ago
They got a huge buyout while everyone with a clue left the company, as I heard the story.
Oletros 10y ago
So, what was the outcome of Oracle vs Google?
- pron 10y ago
  Oracle made many arguments -- patent and copyright infringement. The patent claims were rejected, but after an appeal, the appeals court ruled that language-level APIs (i.e, not REST APIs or other protocols) are copyrightable, at which point (another) court debated the question of fair use by Google, and ruled in Google's favor (i.e, that their use of Java's API does not constitute an infringement of the API's copyright). Oracle have announced their decision to appeal the ruling. In the meantime, though, it seems like Android is about to adopt Oracle's OpenJDK, under the open-source license granted by Oracle.
  - Oletros 10y ago
    OpenJDK was released by Sun, not by Oracle.
    - pron 10y ago
      I didn't say it was released by Oracle; It is owned by Oracle and licensed by them to Google and anyone else by the GPL to do with as they please.

pron 10y ago

Obviously not. They didn't have the resources or the time to sue; they were on the brink of collapse and already involved in talks of acquisition. Google fully expected them to sue[1], but got a reprieve due to Sun's troubles. Android was released in September 2008, with the first phone in November. At that time Sun was in acquisition talks with IBM (and maybe HP), which fell through in 3/09. In 4/09 -- about six months after Android was released -- they announced their agreement with Oracle[1]. That's hardly enough time to even prepare such a lawsuit, let alone carry it through, and obviously Sun had much greater concerns at the time. [1]: Because no such action had ever gone un-sued. [2]: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_acquisition_by_Oracle#Hist...