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There you go again. "Emotional kneejerk comment". "Popular on reddit". (Focusing on what you actually typed which are attacks devoid of facts.) We're not placi

There you go again. "Emotional kneejerk comment". "Popular on reddit". (Focusing on what you actually typed which are attacks devoid of facts.) We're not placing responsibility on the children, we're placing responsibility on the parents. If your parents are not good at being parents, then you'll have a higher probability of bad events happening to you. Nothing we can do will change that, unless we want to put everybody in a state orphanage so that each child can have equal opportunities.

knodi123 10y ago
> We're not placing responsibility on the children, we're placing responsibility on the parents Here's the quote that I replied to, the ONLY quote that I replied to, the ONLY thing that I was discussing: "(Shrug) When I was a child, I was taught not to play in the street" And that quote kinda sounds like placing responsibility on the children. "Here's the solution: Simply have parents who teach you responsiblity. That's what worked for me."
- jimmywanger 10y ago
  Sure, don't reply to the comments about your personal attacks re: "Emotional kneejerk comment". "Popular on reddit". Both of which smack of smugness. You're putting words in the other person's mouth, which is what you're accusing us of. "kinda sounds". Then you put in quotes a sentence you made up hoping to add legitmacy to your remarks.
  - knodi123 10y ago
    > Sure, don't reply to the comments about your personal attacks Thanks. I prefer to avoid meta-discussions based on emotional content that has nothing to do with the topic of conversation. > You're putting words in the other person's mouth, which is what you're accusing us of. "kinda sounds". Then you put in quotes a sentence you made up hoping to add legitmacy to your remarks. I accused someone of putting words in my mouth when they said "childproofed to the extent you probably have in mind". I do not want to childproof the world, and he has no idea what I have in mind. But what I was doing by rewording the quote I've been attempting to discuss, is a standard tool for achieving understanding. You reword someone else's argument, and then they can either point out how you were inaccurate, or agree with your characterization, either one of which allows the conversation to proceed. If you don't care to do either of those things, then I guess you're done discussing the actual topic that this whole thread is about. In which case I think I'm done here.
    - jimmywanger 10y ago
      How's this? The world is full of dangerous things, and no amount of legislation or regulations can make it safe. If you were not taught correctly OR did not absorb information, nothing will prevent you from dying a messy, easily preventible death. That's the main point which you're dancing around.

knodi123 10y ago

> We're not placing responsibility on the children, we're placing responsibility on the parents Here's the quote that I replied to, the ONLY quote that I replied to, the ONLY thing that I was discussing: "(Shrug) When I was a child, I was taught not to play in the street" And that quote kinda sounds like placing responsibility on the children. "Here's the solution: Simply have parents who teach you responsiblity. That's what worked for me."

jimmywanger 10y ago
Sure, don't reply to the comments about your personal attacks re: "Emotional kneejerk comment". "Popular on reddit". Both of which smack of smugness. You're putting words in the other person's mouth, which is what you're accusing us of. "kinda sounds". Then you put in quotes a sentence you made up hoping to add legitmacy to your remarks.
- knodi123 10y ago
  > Sure, don't reply to the comments about your personal attacks Thanks. I prefer to avoid meta-discussions based on emotional content that has nothing to do with the topic of conversation. > You're putting words in the other person's mouth, which is what you're accusing us of. "kinda sounds". Then you put in quotes a sentence you made up hoping to add legitmacy to your remarks. I accused someone of putting words in my mouth when they said "childproofed to the extent you probably have in mind". I do not want to childproof the world, and he has no idea what I have in mind. But what I was doing by rewording the quote I've been attempting to discuss, is a standard tool for achieving understanding. You reword someone else's argument, and then they can either point out how you were inaccurate, or agree with your characterization, either one of which allows the conversation to proceed. If you don't care to do either of those things, then I guess you're done discussing the actual topic that this whole thread is about. In which case I think I'm done here.
  - jimmywanger 10y ago
    How's this? The world is full of dangerous things, and no amount of legislation or regulations can make it safe. If you were not taught correctly OR did not absorb information, nothing will prevent you from dying a messy, easily preventible death. That's the main point which you're dancing around.