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The way I see Pantone is they charge money to guarantee that a colored piece of fabric always looks the same. I can go to Pantone in 10 years and say give me a

The way I see Pantone is they charge money to guarantee that a colored piece of fabric always looks the same. I can go to Pantone in 10 years and say give me a piece of 16-1234-tcx they will give me that and it will look exactly the same as the previous sample I had. Coloring fabrics is not as easy as coloring stuff on a screen.

cptskippy 10y ago
> Coloring fabrics is not as easy as coloring stuff on a screen. eh.... both on nontrivial tasks. Two identical RGB monitors side by side will not match and even after being color matched using expensive tooling, they will not stay matched for long. Getting two monitors from two different manufacturers, or even different revisions of the same product, requires considerable effort. On top of that the color space used by applications may not match, and may not be compatible with the monitors. I always enjoy the color match game of receiving a graphic from our art department because they rarely have their tooling set to the RGB colorspace when they produce their graphics. So depending on which browser you view the graphic in and on which platform you view it you'll end up with wildly different colors. Because some browsers take into account the monitor color profile and others don't, and Macs do a better job with color than Windows which does an infinitely better job with color than Linux (Android).
- callesgg 10y ago
  That is one way of seeing it. The way i tend to look at colors in a computer is as following as long as you use sRGB, LAB or possibly even CMYK then it is up to the OS to show that correctly. In reality every device will have different background light, different settings, different manufacturing process and the list continues there is just no way all the parameters can be accounted for. If you develop for the web or another multi platform environment you cant expect colors to be spectrally same from device to device. AS such you can not and should not develop applications that has that presumption. Only in very specific controlled environments can one make the assumption that a color is what it is and not a representation. So coloring in a computer is easy cause the rules of the "game" is defined. Show a specific sRGB color and that is what it is. If you have a bad screen that wont show that color that is not my problem. BTW the "RGB colorspace" is not a specific thing it is an idea, dont ever refer to such a thing if you want to be productive.
  - cptskippy 10y ago
    That's a very optimistic approach and will eventually bite you in the ass without proper checks. BTW people often generalize terms to simplify concepts for the uninitiated.
- giovannibajo1 10y ago
  Honest question: can you explain how Linux does a worse job with colors?
  - cptskippy 10y ago
    Color management was never a primary consideration of the platform and there's no centralized way of dealing with it. Like most things *nix it can be managed if the stars are all in alignment. I think the wikipedia article puts it best. "Historically, color management was not an initial design consideration of the X11 display system on which much of Linux graphics support rests, and thus color managed workflows have been somewhat more challenging to implement on Linux than under OS's such as Microsoft Windows or Mac OS X. This situation is now being progressively remedied, however it must be admitted that color management under Linux, while functional, has not yet acquired mature status. Although it is now possible to obtain a very consistent color management workflow under Linux, certain problems still remain" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_color_management https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_color_management

cptskippy 10y ago

> Coloring fabrics is not as easy as coloring stuff on a screen. eh.... both on nontrivial tasks. Two identical RGB monitors side by side will not match and even after being color matched using expensive tooling, they will not stay matched for long. Getting two monitors from two different manufacturers, or even different revisions of the same product, requires considerable effort. On top of that the color space used by applications may not match, and may not be compatible with the monitors. I always enjoy the color match game of receiving a graphic from our art department because they rarely have their tooling set to the RGB colorspace when they produce their graphics. So depending on which browser you view the graphic in and on which platform you view it you'll end up with wildly different colors. Because some browsers take into account the monitor color profile and others don't, and Macs do a better job with color than Windows which does an infinitely better job with color than Linux (Android).

callesgg 10y ago
That is one way of seeing it. The way i tend to look at colors in a computer is as following as long as you use sRGB, LAB or possibly even CMYK then it is up to the OS to show that correctly. In reality every device will have different background light, different settings, different manufacturing process and the list continues there is just no way all the parameters can be accounted for. If you develop for the web or another multi platform environment you cant expect colors to be spectrally same from device to device. AS such you can not and should not develop applications that has that presumption. Only in very specific controlled environments can one make the assumption that a color is what it is and not a representation. So coloring in a computer is easy cause the rules of the "game" is defined. Show a specific sRGB color and that is what it is. If you have a bad screen that wont show that color that is not my problem. BTW the "RGB colorspace" is not a specific thing it is an idea, dont ever refer to such a thing if you want to be productive.
- cptskippy 10y ago
  That's a very optimistic approach and will eventually bite you in the ass without proper checks. BTW people often generalize terms to simplify concepts for the uninitiated.
giovannibajo1 10y ago
Honest question: can you explain how Linux does a worse job with colors?
- cptskippy 10y ago
  Color management was never a primary consideration of the platform and there's no centralized way of dealing with it. Like most things *nix it can be managed if the stars are all in alignment. I think the wikipedia article puts it best. "Historically, color management was not an initial design consideration of the X11 display system on which much of Linux graphics support rests, and thus color managed workflows have been somewhat more challenging to implement on Linux than under OS's such as Microsoft Windows or Mac OS X. This situation is now being progressively remedied, however it must be admitted that color management under Linux, while functional, has not yet acquired mature status. Although it is now possible to obtain a very consistent color management workflow under Linux, certain problems still remain" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_color_management https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_color_management