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You open new windows hundreds of times a day?

by joelthelion 10y ago

fauigerzigerk 10y ago
Yes
- joelthelion 10y ago
  Can you explain why? I'm genuinely curious.
  - lloeki 10y ago
    Windows as tab groups. Some of those are quite persistent, but many are very transient and don't live longer than a dozen minutes. There are OSes with potent window managers. Ideally tabs should even be part of the WM itself† and not be reinvented across each app††, or disappear altogether (e.g Chrome on Android, Exposé/Mission Control per app window grouping) † possibly even allowing tabs to be a mix of apps †† features such as pinned tabs, the defunct Firefox tab groups/overview, Vivaldi are especially egregious examples.
  - fauigerzigerk 10y ago
    The primary reason is that I search for everything instead of navigating to it on individual websites. That includes function signatures and other API stuff I need all day long. And I don't keep windows or tabs open because they are hard to find again and start to pile up. So I open and close them a lot. I don't use the bookmarks menu directly. I just open a new window and start typing. Either the page I'm looking for is in the auto complete or I hit enter and it goes to the search engine. To sum it up, I have trouble remembering hierarchies and various navigation and UX ideas that web designers come up with. I have trouble visually grasping what's on a page (it's a kind of disability I always had). So instead I search. In fact, that's also one of the great things about Firefox. Typing in its location bar lets me find other open windows and tabs. I love that.
    - the8472 10y ago
      > Typing in its location bar lets me find other open windows and tabs. I love that. Prefix with % and it will return only that kind of result.
  - sametmax 10y ago
    Because it's an easier workflow. Open a new tab, type the address (or clic the thumb) and go. If you do it on a current tab, you are always in danger to erase your current tab by mistake from mistyping the open in new tab shortcut. Another thing is that if you have your hand on the mouse, it's faster to click + than to type said shortcut. What's more, FF can't hold as many opened tab as I wish without slowing down. So I have to clean regularly, and so I reopen tabs I closed 10 minutes ago.
    - joncrocks 10y ago
      There's a plugin called TabsMixPlus - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-Gb/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-Gb/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus/ This allows you to ensure that you open new tabs when you want/customises tab behaviour.
      - sametmax 10y ago
        I used it a lot years ago, but not so much anymore.
sametmax 10y ago
I don't know about him, but I do. And this latency is indeed annoying. I'm still in FF out of sheer believe in FOSS in general and Mozilla in particular, but right now every single action I tried is just faster on chrome.

You open new windows hundreds of times a day?

fauigerzigerk 10y ago

Yes

joelthelion 10y ago
Can you explain why? I'm genuinely curious.
- lloeki 10y ago
  Windows as tab groups. Some of those are quite persistent, but many are very transient and don't live longer than a dozen minutes. There are OSes with potent window managers. Ideally tabs should even be part of the WM itself† and not be reinvented across each app††, or disappear altogether (e.g Chrome on Android, Exposé/Mission Control per app window grouping) † possibly even allowing tabs to be a mix of apps †† features such as pinned tabs, the defunct Firefox tab groups/overview, Vivaldi are especially egregious examples.
- fauigerzigerk 10y ago
  The primary reason is that I search for everything instead of navigating to it on individual websites. That includes function signatures and other API stuff I need all day long. And I don't keep windows or tabs open because they are hard to find again and start to pile up. So I open and close them a lot. I don't use the bookmarks menu directly. I just open a new window and start typing. Either the page I'm looking for is in the auto complete or I hit enter and it goes to the search engine. To sum it up, I have trouble remembering hierarchies and various navigation and UX ideas that web designers come up with. I have trouble visually grasping what's on a page (it's a kind of disability I always had). So instead I search. In fact, that's also one of the great things about Firefox. Typing in its location bar lets me find other open windows and tabs. I love that.
  - the8472 10y ago
    > Typing in its location bar lets me find other open windows and tabs. I love that. Prefix with % and it will return only that kind of result.
- sametmax 10y ago
  Because it's an easier workflow. Open a new tab, type the address (or clic the thumb) and go. If you do it on a current tab, you are always in danger to erase your current tab by mistake from mistyping the open in new tab shortcut. Another thing is that if you have your hand on the mouse, it's faster to click + than to type said shortcut. What's more, FF can't hold as many opened tab as I wish without slowing down. So I have to clean regularly, and so I reopen tabs I closed 10 minutes ago.
  - joncrocks 10y ago
    There's a plugin called TabsMixPlus - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-Gb/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-Gb/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus/ This allows you to ensure that you open new tabs when you want/customises tab behaviour.
    - sametmax 10y ago
      I used it a lot years ago, but not so much anymore.

sametmax 10y ago

I don't know about him, but I do. And this latency is indeed annoying. I'm still in FF out of sheer believe in FOSS in general and Mozilla in particular, but right now every single action I tried is just faster on chrome.