So at the end of this he runs a department, so he still a middle manager, how depressing. Did he create anything? Did he invent anything? He doesn't seem like

So at the end of this he runs a department, so he still a middle manager, how depressing. Did he create anything? Did he invent anything? He doesn't seem like much of a role model to me. If I met Saul at a party I'd find an excuse to exit the conversation.