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Lower range for engineers than I would have expected.

by misnamed 10y ago

hox 10y ago
This is just from angel list. So essentially just early stage startup salary ranges, presumably?
- jonathankoren 10y ago
  Angel List's salaries are literally a joke. It's not hard to find something like "senior full stack developer; salary: $1,000 equity 0.0%" or "co-founder salary $0, equity 0.0 - 0.05%" It's completely useless. I can't imagine who you'd actually attract with these ads, because you literally can't pay the rent with this money and the equity for senior positions is insulting.
  - base698 10y ago
    People that have a million in stock from a previous exit that don't need the money for a few years?
    - mesozoic 10y ago
      And they're really itching to work for basically charity for someone who will greatly undervalue them. Sure. I saw some unicorns by the lake the other day too.
- minimaxir 10y ago
  What I wanted to do was map offers to startups (so I could at the least tag smaller startups), but the AngelList API intentionaly omits the startup name/information from the Jobs endpoint. I'm annoyed.
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  - bduerst 10y ago
    I was going to say, why not scrape their pages? But they seem to require you to log in to view any job postings, and even then it's some custom feed.
ddebernardy 10y ago
This is based on angel.co data, so it's woefully lowballed.
tcoder 10y ago
Extreme sampling bias. Startup has opening -> Can't fill it with people in their network -> Can't fill it with people who come to them -> Resorts to Angel List posting -> Angel list posting stays online longer because they have trouble filling it -> high turnover means the job ad stays up forever or keeps getting reposted. Great jobs tend to skew toward the left side of that funnel = sampling bias.
- bduerst 10y ago
  Pretty much. Another major assumption here is that Angel List postings are legitimate - even though some companies post "job openings" online to vacuum up resumes for a database.
superuser2 10y ago
Their career-wide median is just barely north of what I was offered coming off a college internship, with no competing offers or negotiation.
dclowd9901 10y ago
Same. I would've guessed mid 100s for engies, easily. Probably closer to high 100s

Lower range for engineers than I would have expected.

hox 10y ago

This is just from angel list. So essentially just early stage startup salary ranges, presumably?

jonathankoren 10y ago
Angel List's salaries are literally a joke. It's not hard to find something like "senior full stack developer; salary: $1,000 equity 0.0%" or "co-founder salary $0, equity 0.0 - 0.05%" It's completely useless. I can't imagine who you'd actually attract with these ads, because you literally can't pay the rent with this money and the equity for senior positions is insulting.
- base698 10y ago
  People that have a million in stock from a previous exit that don't need the money for a few years?
  - mesozoic 10y ago
    And they're really itching to work for basically charity for someone who will greatly undervalue them. Sure. I saw some unicorns by the lake the other day too.
minimaxir 10y ago
What I wanted to do was map offers to startups (so I could at the least tag smaller startups), but the AngelList API intentionaly omits the startup name/information from the Jobs endpoint. I'm annoyed.
- deleted 10y ago
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- bduerst 10y ago
  I was going to say, why not scrape their pages? But they seem to require you to log in to view any job postings, and even then it's some custom feed.

ddebernardy 10y ago

This is based on angel.co data, so it's woefully lowballed.

tcoder 10y ago

Extreme sampling bias. Startup has opening -> Can't fill it with people in their network -> Can't fill it with people who come to them -> Resorts to Angel List posting -> Angel list posting stays online longer because they have trouble filling it -> high turnover means the job ad stays up forever or keeps getting reposted. Great jobs tend to skew toward the left side of that funnel = sampling bias.

bduerst 10y ago
Pretty much. Another major assumption here is that Angel List postings are legitimate - even though some companies post "job openings" online to vacuum up resumes for a database.

superuser2 10y ago

Their career-wide median is just barely north of what I was offered coming off a college internship, with no competing offers or negotiation.

dclowd9901 10y ago

Same. I would've guessed mid 100s for engies, easily. Probably closer to high 100s