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You sound like you're trying to win some debate. You shouldn't assume things about someone else's story to win one. Creating your own strawman then proceeding

You sound like you're trying to win some debate. You shouldn't assume things about someone else's story to win one. Creating your own strawman then proceeding to beat it up about how I invaded their home. When we 'blasted in' we didn't kick the door in. We knocked, started quizzing the guy who answered the door about the TV, one of them said to come on in and look around. Then we blasted in. The gun could've gotten him killed. He pulled it out but clearly wasn't willing to use it, he waved it around as if we were going to be scared. I wasn't, he got it ripped from his hands then he was beaten to the ground his own gun. This kind of non-macho posturing is typical. Then we got that stupid gun out the door and settled it. Anyway this wasn't that big of a deal, just a robbery resolved as cordially as you can in an efficient manner. It worked out for both parties. Especially well for them, considering they were involved with breaking, entering and theft. Not to mention whatever charge comes with pulling a gun out threatening to kill people. He did say he'd shoot us. I'd say they got off rather easy, other than bruised egos. They were my neighbors and I assure you, they didn't want anything to do with me again. You seem touchy about it for some reason like you were on the receiving end of a similar situation. I personally don't like to be taken advantage of or have my home robbed? This was a relatively tame story I was willing to post publicly. Zavodnik, has no idea what waits for him out there. It's not all fun and games when you play with peoples lives as he does. Wait till he finds someone intelligent, aggressive, willing to go to the edge or slightly over the rule of law and with a strong sense of justice. Street justice, not the courts. I could be that man for sure, but like most people reading this- I would only interrupt my life for someone who affected my family. Possibly a local child rapist or similar heinous criminal could face my wrath. It would take something like that to activate my mob violence gene. That guy just needs some anonymous midnight beatings by some of the victims and their families and he'll stop. Yeah it's the "wrong answer!" even though our nation-state does much worse. He's just gotten off with zero retaliation so far so he's going to continue to stay within the rules but abuse our judicial system.

GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
> That guy just needs some anonymous midnight beatings > Possibly a local child rapist or similar heinous criminal could face my wrath. It would take something like that to activate my mob violence gene Jesus Christ.
Chris2048 10y ago
So wait, you entered, and they just pulled a gun? They weren't trying to get you to leave? > Especially well for them, considering they were involved with breaking, entering and theft. You implied that they weren't involved, that some other group was, and they had just stayed there. I've never had my home invaded, do I need to be personally affected to sympathise with it? You don't know me either, I'm just taking your post at face-value. it suggested you turned someones place upside down, despite having only the suspicion that they associated with the people that took it.
- BuckRogers 10y ago
  Yes it was risky. I thought long and hard before committing that I had the right people. I didn't know specifics on what happened or who exactly was involved, I just knew that they either had it or knew. But I knew it came from there for sure so I went for it. There were many people there. One invited us in, others wanted us out including Billy the Kid. They definitely made the mistake of inviting us in. We weren't going to break and enter and good chance with a verbal confrontation someone says "come on in!" at some point, which they did. I don't think they knew how serious we were. They weren't expecting us rampaging through. If I was wrong, I was wrong but I either did something or I didn't. I feel like you're asking for perfection when I was just trying to achieve a goal. Bottom line is that I was right and within an hour I had an identical, brand new TV in the box on my front doorstep with an apology. I'm not sure we ever know anything for certain in life right? I had to try. It is true: I did not have forensic evidence, but I knew it was them. I suppose I could be a bad man but it was a judgement call. I never doubted after that day that I made the right call. It was aggressive but not the worst story I have. Not sure what else to add. I don't remember every detail as time has passed and everything I was told, but I'm pretty sure at least one of those guys helped toss the TV into the pickup truck that carried it away. They weren't angels right, no one came over to tell me I had been robbed. They were probably going to keep quiet. Maybe bad guys met worse and got an unpleasant surprise.

GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago

> That guy just needs some anonymous midnight beatings > Possibly a local child rapist or similar heinous criminal could face my wrath. It would take something like that to activate my mob violence gene Jesus Christ.

Chris2048 10y ago

So wait, you entered, and they just pulled a gun? They weren't trying to get you to leave? > Especially well for them, considering they were involved with breaking, entering and theft. You implied that they weren't involved, that some other group was, and they had just stayed there. I've never had my home invaded, do I need to be personally affected to sympathise with it? You don't know me either, I'm just taking your post at face-value. it suggested you turned someones place upside down, despite having only the suspicion that they associated with the people that took it.

BuckRogers 10y ago
Yes it was risky. I thought long and hard before committing that I had the right people. I didn't know specifics on what happened or who exactly was involved, I just knew that they either had it or knew. But I knew it came from there for sure so I went for it. There were many people there. One invited us in, others wanted us out including Billy the Kid. They definitely made the mistake of inviting us in. We weren't going to break and enter and good chance with a verbal confrontation someone says "come on in!" at some point, which they did. I don't think they knew how serious we were. They weren't expecting us rampaging through. If I was wrong, I was wrong but I either did something or I didn't. I feel like you're asking for perfection when I was just trying to achieve a goal. Bottom line is that I was right and within an hour I had an identical, brand new TV in the box on my front doorstep with an apology. I'm not sure we ever know anything for certain in life right? I had to try. It is true: I did not have forensic evidence, but I knew it was them. I suppose I could be a bad man but it was a judgement call. I never doubted after that day that I made the right call. It was aggressive but not the worst story I have. Not sure what else to add. I don't remember every detail as time has passed and everything I was told, but I'm pretty sure at least one of those guys helped toss the TV into the pickup truck that carried it away. They weren't angels right, no one came over to tell me I had been robbed. They were probably going to keep quiet. Maybe bad guys met worse and got an unpleasant surprise.