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The data is a bit skewed, because the biggest flow is in the 19th century, but it shows the borders of the Federal Republic of Germany (1949) not the German Con

The data is a bit skewed, because the biggest flow is in the 19th century, but it shows the borders of the Federal Republic of Germany (1949) not the German Confederation (1815), which included Austria (which itself was much bigger, including Hungary etc.) and Prussia (which was basically where Poland is today). There really was no "Germany" back then, just German speaking states, which fought wars against each other, had different religions and so on. The reason they united was basically because they hated Napoleon more than each other.

mgalka 10y ago
Here is the data source: http://metrocosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/usa-immigration-statistics-2013.pdf http://metrocosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/usa-immigrat... The footnotes on page 11 give a good explanation. For the most part, Austria, Hungary, and Poland are broken out separately according to their present borders, even for the periods when they weren't separate countries.
- allendoerfer 10y ago
  Maybe I misunderstand what is said on page 16, but to me it seems like foreign nationals like Polish people are included in other countries data. So the data is bound to geographical areas not nationalities, while the interactive map shows today's geographical boundaries, which don't included said geographical areas and nationalities anymore, making the data skewed. How was the data gathered? Depending on what you asked a Hungarian from 1850, you might have gotten 3 different countries. Where are you from? Austria. What nationality are you? Hungarian. What state are you from? Germany.
  - ptaipale 10y ago
    Likewise, you could ask from three persons who came from the same place at different times: Where are you from? 1853: Lemberg in the Habsburg Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria, the first city in Europe with street lights! I'm Galician. 1923: Lwow in Poland, the city that bravely defended against the Red Army! I'm Polish. 1953: Lviv of USSR! I am a Soviet citizen. 1993: Lviv of Ukraine! I am Ukrainian. And this doesn't include some shorter term changes such as Distrikt Galizien in 1943.

mgalka 10y ago

Here is the data source: http://metrocosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/usa-immigration-statistics-2013.pdf http://metrocosm.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/usa-immigrat... The footnotes on page 11 give a good explanation. For the most part, Austria, Hungary, and Poland are broken out separately according to their present borders, even for the periods when they weren't separate countries.

allendoerfer 10y ago
Maybe I misunderstand what is said on page 16, but to me it seems like foreign nationals like Polish people are included in other countries data. So the data is bound to geographical areas not nationalities, while the interactive map shows today's geographical boundaries, which don't included said geographical areas and nationalities anymore, making the data skewed. How was the data gathered? Depending on what you asked a Hungarian from 1850, you might have gotten 3 different countries. Where are you from? Austria. What nationality are you? Hungarian. What state are you from? Germany.
- ptaipale 10y ago
  Likewise, you could ask from three persons who came from the same place at different times: Where are you from? 1853: Lemberg in the Habsburg Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria, the first city in Europe with street lights! I'm Galician. 1923: Lwow in Poland, the city that bravely defended against the Red Army! I'm Polish. 1953: Lviv of USSR! I am a Soviet citizen. 1993: Lviv of Ukraine! I am Ukrainian. And this doesn't include some shorter term changes such as Distrikt Galizien in 1943.