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Sounds like a plausible outcome. The RIAA is extremely mad at Google - specifically YouTube - for what they believe is lost revenues. I'd be willing to wager a

Sounds like a plausible outcome. The RIAA is extremely mad at Google - specifically YouTube - for what they believe is lost revenues. I'd be willing to wager a large sum of money that your postulation is correct, and that would be the next step. Some might think me cynical but I have developed my opinion of RIAA after quite a bit of outside study.

rhizome 10y ago
The RIAA is extremely mad at the Internet as a whole. They make demands for companies to kowtow to their preferences and don't even try help devise solutions to their perceived problems, only coming up with half-steps like SoundExchange.
inanutshellus 10y ago
I'm curious what they're "extremely" mad about... AFAIK YouTube is a poster child for the RIAA as a massive cash cow. Google auto-detects copyrighted works and all uses of a copyrighted content in a video, even fair-use (including background-noise e.g. having the TV on in the background when you video your child's first steps) give the RIAA a payback. Certainly they're still vigilantly sending take-down notices for content they want removed, but... by-and-large, it's gotta be dump trucks of free money to their doorsteps...
- toyg 10y ago
  What it is and what they say it is are different concepts.
- chris11 10y ago
  I'd think the RIAA would be much happier if music wasn't available for free so easily. And YouTube is a great place to find music legally. Getting free money isn't great at all if they think that the free money is from other companies destroying more profitable distribution channels. I definitely don't agree with that. But companies wouldn't have sued YouTube asking for over a billion in damages if they wanted to do business with them.
  - AnthonyMouse 10y ago
    > But companies wouldn't have sued YouTube asking for over a billion in damages if they wanted to do business with them. A spurious lawsuit will cost the defendant millions of dollars to defend from even if they win, so filing one and then offering to withdraw it in exchange for large concessions is actually a somewhat common negotiating strategy for soulless kitten-eating behemoths with no regard for fairness or their own reputations.
- barkbro 10y ago
  They are mad becuase it isn't making them enough money. You can have a look at this, which was posted a couple days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11836291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11836291
- hguant 10y ago
  Article that addresses the issue of how YouTube is the RIAA's poster child for success and still its worst enemy http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/riaa-still-hates-the-dmca-even-as-streaming-revenues-soar/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/riaa-still-hates-the...
- 6stringmerc 10y ago
  Here's a very good industry examination which describes why there's ongoing issues between RIAA and YouTube: http://www.completemusicupdate.com/article/trends-the-music-industry-and-youtube-a-free-read/ http://www.completemusicupdate.com/article/trends-the-music-...
danudey 10y ago
If my 30 second video of my 1yo son dancing to Call Me Maybe doesn't get taken down, think of all the revenue that the RIAA/Carly Rae Jepson will lose! Instead of paying $0.99 on iTunes, they'll be able to come watch my video five times and get the same enjoyment. Bear in mind, these are the same people who tried to argue that 30 second ring tones are a public performance and wanted royalties from them.

rhizome 10y ago

The RIAA is extremely mad at the Internet as a whole. They make demands for companies to kowtow to their preferences and don't even try help devise solutions to their perceived problems, only coming up with half-steps like SoundExchange.

inanutshellus 10y ago

I'm curious what they're "extremely" mad about... AFAIK YouTube is a poster child for the RIAA as a massive cash cow. Google auto-detects copyrighted works and all uses of a copyrighted content in a video, even fair-use (including background-noise e.g. having the TV on in the background when you video your child's first steps) give the RIAA a payback. Certainly they're still vigilantly sending take-down notices for content they want removed, but... by-and-large, it's gotta be dump trucks of free money to their doorsteps...

toyg 10y ago
What it is and what they say it is are different concepts.
chris11 10y ago
I'd think the RIAA would be much happier if music wasn't available for free so easily. And YouTube is a great place to find music legally. Getting free money isn't great at all if they think that the free money is from other companies destroying more profitable distribution channels. I definitely don't agree with that. But companies wouldn't have sued YouTube asking for over a billion in damages if they wanted to do business with them.
- AnthonyMouse 10y ago
  > But companies wouldn't have sued YouTube asking for over a billion in damages if they wanted to do business with them. A spurious lawsuit will cost the defendant millions of dollars to defend from even if they win, so filing one and then offering to withdraw it in exchange for large concessions is actually a somewhat common negotiating strategy for soulless kitten-eating behemoths with no regard for fairness or their own reputations.
barkbro 10y ago
They are mad becuase it isn't making them enough money. You can have a look at this, which was posted a couple days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11836291 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11836291
hguant 10y ago
Article that addresses the issue of how YouTube is the RIAA's poster child for success and still its worst enemy http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/riaa-still-hates-the-dmca-even-as-streaming-revenues-soar/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/riaa-still-hates-the...
6stringmerc 10y ago
Here's a very good industry examination which describes why there's ongoing issues between RIAA and YouTube: http://www.completemusicupdate.com/article/trends-the-music-industry-and-youtube-a-free-read/ http://www.completemusicupdate.com/article/trends-the-music-...

danudey 10y ago

If my 30 second video of my 1yo son dancing to Call Me Maybe doesn't get taken down, think of all the revenue that the RIAA/Carly Rae Jepson will lose! Instead of paying $0.99 on iTunes, they'll be able to come watch my video five times and get the same enjoyment. Bear in mind, these are the same people who tried to argue that 30 second ring tones are a public performance and wanted royalties from them.