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Although I find geoblocking super annoying as well (personally), I don't see a compelling argument why site owners should not have the right to decide freely wh

Although I find geoblocking super annoying as well (personally), I don't see a compelling argument why site owners should not have the right to decide freely who can access their page and who not? It's they who provide the service, so it should be their call.

DasIch 10y ago
This isn't about private people it's about businesses. Those haven't been allowed to discriminate based on many things for a long time. This proposal merely pushes that further. This isn't the huge change you want to make it out to be.
- elcapitan 10y ago
  I'd be happy to get rid of other overregulation as well. Laws are man-made, and therefore they can be changed by man.
  - PeterisP 10y ago
    Why yes, laws can be changed by man, and that's why they have made these customer protection laws and will likely change them to be even stricter in future. At least in the EU, there is strong support for that.
    - elcapitan 10y ago
      Unless they do the opposite and people get all whiny about "neoliberalism" and so on.
PeterisP 10y ago
It's considered a form of unreasonable discrimination - if someone comes to your shop and you decline to serve them because of their nationality, citizenship or country of residence then that (at least if all that is within EU) is illegal. You don't have to open your shop in every country, but if an Italian comes to an UK shop, they have rights to not be refused service. The same should apply if some online customer appears to have an Italian creditcard, IP address or real world address - it shouldn't make any difference, it's supposed to be a single market within EU.
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exclusiv 10y ago
I agree. I run an online business ONLY for users in the United States and there are laws in the US regulating my various user types and their activities. I geoblock certain countries because, while not foolproof, it helps prevent scammers doing real harm (financial and emotional) by preying on my users and it's my responsibility to do as much as I can to protect my users and the reputation of my business. I support the notion to end geoblocking in theory but the reality is that many countries do NOTHING to ensure a safe internet and their citizens take advantage of this with online fraud, scams, spamming, etc.

DasIch 10y ago

This isn't about private people it's about businesses. Those haven't been allowed to discriminate based on many things for a long time. This proposal merely pushes that further. This isn't the huge change you want to make it out to be.

elcapitan 10y ago
I'd be happy to get rid of other overregulation as well. Laws are man-made, and therefore they can be changed by man.
- PeterisP 10y ago
  Why yes, laws can be changed by man, and that's why they have made these customer protection laws and will likely change them to be even stricter in future. At least in the EU, there is strong support for that.
  - elcapitan 10y ago
    Unless they do the opposite and people get all whiny about "neoliberalism" and so on.

PeterisP 10y ago

It's considered a form of unreasonable discrimination - if someone comes to your shop and you decline to serve them because of their nationality, citizenship or country of residence then that (at least if all that is within EU) is illegal. You don't have to open your shop in every country, but if an Italian comes to an UK shop, they have rights to not be refused service. The same should apply if some online customer appears to have an Italian creditcard, IP address or real world address - it shouldn't make any difference, it's supposed to be a single market within EU.

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exclusiv 10y ago

I agree. I run an online business ONLY for users in the United States and there are laws in the US regulating my various user types and their activities. I geoblock certain countries because, while not foolproof, it helps prevent scammers doing real harm (financial and emotional) by preying on my users and it's my responsibility to do as much as I can to protect my users and the reputation of my business. I support the notion to end geoblocking in theory but the reality is that many countries do NOTHING to ensure a safe internet and their citizens take advantage of this with online fraud, scams, spamming, etc.