I don't know what the solution to hiring is, but I don't think it is as simple as just talking to people. While I have not been involved in too many new hires,

I don't know what the solution to hiring is, but I don't think it is as simple as just talking to people. While I have not been involved in too many new hires, I have known many people that come across as knowledgeable in conversation but produce pretty terrible code. I think coding challenges provide some value, but it can be a but much to expect candidates to spend hour's of their time early in the process