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I totally understand your skepticism there. Yes, I was totally an idiot for not keeping the notes, not going to the police, etc. etc. If I can offer anything,

I totally understand your skepticism there. Yes, I was totally an idiot for not keeping the notes, not going to the police, etc. etc. If I can offer anything, by the time it got to that point, I had already been told to "stop making drama" about the whole thing and somehow just pacify Jake by many people I trusted. So I bring them a note! I bring them to my hotel room! Let's walk through the scenario in my head: What's to make them believe me now because I have some anonymous piece of paper. Who's to say I didn't make the thing up myself to try to get back at Jake? Why would someone believe me just because there's a shred of something. My whole approach up until I couldn't take it anymore was to just ignore, to let it slide, to not think about it and move on. THIS IS WHAT HARASSMENT VICTIMS DO and yes, I should have recognized it at the time.

chris_wot 10y ago
Even if you didn't ignore it, it sounds like the well was already poisoned for you. I think you've made the right decision to leave this group, sad though the situation is.
lucb1e 10y ago
> What's to make them believe me now because I have some anonymous piece of paper. I don't know anything about policework, but entering in a place illegally (I assume Jake or one of his friends doesn't have legal free reign in random German hotels) to intimidate someone into doing something is quite a thing. I could imagine the police caring enough to try to get fingerprints off of the piece of paper and perhaps come to the hotel room to check video footage and other fingerprints. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but someone mentioned something that caught my eye as well, so I commented on it. Up until now I hadn't doubted Jake's legitimacy. I also didn't agree with everything he said (having heard him speak and answer questions in multiple places, and briefly talking to him personally), but I figured it's just normal not to agree with everything someone says. Your article made me realize I should listen better and judge whether the good intentions are really there, and it made me much more hesitant when it comes to Jake and the Tor project in general (another comment linked an article with similar things about the Tor project as a whole). So thanks for sharing this.

chris_wot 10y ago

Even if you didn't ignore it, it sounds like the well was already poisoned for you. I think you've made the right decision to leave this group, sad though the situation is.

lucb1e 10y ago

> What's to make them believe me now because I have some anonymous piece of paper. I don't know anything about policework, but entering in a place illegally (I assume Jake or one of his friends doesn't have legal free reign in random German hotels) to intimidate someone into doing something is quite a thing. I could imagine the police caring enough to try to get fingerprints off of the piece of paper and perhaps come to the hotel room to check video footage and other fingerprints. I'm not saying I don't believe you, but someone mentioned something that caught my eye as well, so I commented on it. Up until now I hadn't doubted Jake's legitimacy. I also didn't agree with everything he said (having heard him speak and answer questions in multiple places, and briefly talking to him personally), but I figured it's just normal not to agree with everything someone says. Your article made me realize I should listen better and judge whether the good intentions are really there, and it made me much more hesitant when it comes to Jake and the Tor project in general (another comment linked an article with similar things about the Tor project as a whole). So thanks for sharing this.