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It would be a visible symbol that Islam is part of mainstream culture which it is not. It is part of other cultures and these cultures have very different views

It would be a visible symbol that Islam is part of mainstream culture which it is not. It is part of other cultures and these cultures have very different views on social norms and order, laws and politics.

mwfunk 10y ago
If you incorporate tribalism into a national constitution, all it does is amplify tribalism in society. Whatever social problems exist between unassimilated immigrants and locals will get worse, not better. A constitution is probably the single least constructive place possible in which to wage culture wars. It should be steering the country towards helping different cultures coexist, not feeding into both the xenophobia of one group while formalizing the outsider status of another one.
- DominikR 10y ago
  I tend to agree that the constitution is the wrong place, it should probably be a law. But this has nothing to do with xenophobia, it's about the social order and norms that we have and that we will have in the future. I like the freedoms I have and I don't want to give them up, neither do I want the Muslim living in Europe to give up his. Everyone can practice their religion and have their political views but with time they or their next generation will tend to assimilate, it's only natural. I believe that allowing immigrants to remodel our society and culture in any way they desire will not have the effect that we'll merge and solve cultural issues. Instead they will build and create according to their own culture (which is also natural), live among themselves concentrated in some parts of the cities which will then turn into ghettos with high unemployment and this would in turn create radicalism on both sides. There are already districts in some German cities where ethnic Germans are at risk if they enter. To me, this is clearly not the way to go.

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It would be a visible symbol that Islam is part of mainstream culture which it is not. It is part of other cultures and these cultures have very different views

by DominikR 10y ago

mwfunk 10y ago
If you incorporate tribalism into a national constitution, all it does is amplify tribalism in society. Whatever social problems exist between unassimilated immigrants and locals will get worse, not better. A constitution is probably the single least constructive place possible in which to wage culture wars. It should be steering the country towards helping different cultures coexist, not feeding into both the xenophobia of one group while formalizing the outsider status of another one.
- DominikR 10y ago
  I tend to agree that the constitution is the wrong place, it should probably be a law. But this has nothing to do with xenophobia, it's about the social order and norms that we have and that we will have in the future. I like the freedoms I have and I don't want to give them up, neither do I want the Muslim living in Europe to give up his. Everyone can practice their religion and have their political views but with time they or their next generation will tend to assimilate, it's only natural. I believe that allowing immigrants to remodel our society and culture in any way they desire will not have the effect that we'll merge and solve cultural issues. Instead they will build and create according to their own culture (which is also natural), live among themselves concentrated in some parts of the cities which will then turn into ghettos with high unemployment and this would in turn create radicalism on both sides. There are already districts in some German cities where ethnic Germans are at risk if they enter. To me, this is clearly not the way to go.