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This means I can basically go to a Starbucks and pwn the Asus there, right? I have an Asus now but installed Ubuntu first thing when I got it. If I couldn't us

This means I can basically go to a Starbucks and pwn the Asus there, right? I have an Asus now but installed Ubuntu first thing when I got it. If I couldn't use Ubuntu I'd use Mac. I see the problem has two sides, Windows for allowing for malware preinstalled and OEM for installing it.

qb45 10y ago
Things wouldn't be much different if they shipped Ubuntu preinstalled.
- Retr0spectrum 10y ago
  How so? It's not my distro of choice, but I'm pretty sure there aren't any known remote root code execution exploits.
  - Kubuxu 10y ago
    If they wrote and installed remote execution exploit on the Windows they would do the same if they shipped with Ubuntu.
    - ams6110 10y ago
      Which is a good reason to always do a fresh OS reinstall before you even boot the system for the first time. That's what I've done the past couple of times I've bought a new PC. the very first boot is off a USB drive to do a clean OS install. Completely wipe the existing disk partitions too.
      - franciscop 10y ago
        I couldn't do this, I had to boot windows once to disable UEFI first. Didn't set up the wifi though.
        ams6110 10y ago
        Isn't that just a BIOS setting? Addmitedly I've not dealty with UEFI much.
        franciscop 10y ago
        Well I just found an even faster guide than what I did back in the day. Still, cannot boot into the BIOS until starting/shutting down Windows: > Windows 10 keeps the [Fast Startup] feature as Windows 8. (For more information, please refer to Windows 8-Introduction of [Fast Startup]) > Due to the reason, you CANNOT press F2 to enter BIOS configuration when booting the system. Source: https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1013015/ https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1013015/
      - pietroalbini 10y ago
        Unless you bought a Lenovo and you need Windows [1]. [1] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/lenovo-used-windows-anti-theft-feature-to-install-persistent-crapware/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/lenovo...

qb45 10y ago

Things wouldn't be much different if they shipped Ubuntu preinstalled.

Retr0spectrum 10y ago
How so? It's not my distro of choice, but I'm pretty sure there aren't any known remote root code execution exploits.
- Kubuxu 10y ago
  If they wrote and installed remote execution exploit on the Windows they would do the same if they shipped with Ubuntu.
  - ams6110 10y ago
    Which is a good reason to always do a fresh OS reinstall before you even boot the system for the first time. That's what I've done the past couple of times I've bought a new PC. the very first boot is off a USB drive to do a clean OS install. Completely wipe the existing disk partitions too.
    - franciscop 10y ago
      I couldn't do this, I had to boot windows once to disable UEFI first. Didn't set up the wifi though.
      - ams6110 10y ago
        Isn't that just a BIOS setting? Addmitedly I've not dealty with UEFI much.
        franciscop 10y ago
        Well I just found an even faster guide than what I did back in the day. Still, cannot boot into the BIOS until starting/shutting down Windows: > Windows 10 keeps the [Fast Startup] feature as Windows 8. (For more information, please refer to Windows 8-Introduction of [Fast Startup]) > Due to the reason, you CANNOT press F2 to enter BIOS configuration when booting the system. Source: https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1013015/ https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1013015/
    - pietroalbini 10y ago
      Unless you bought a Lenovo and you need Windows [1]. [1] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/lenovo-used-windows-anti-theft-feature-to-install-persistent-crapware/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/lenovo...