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Sadly our use case (private data etc.) prevents us from leaving the local availability zone, meaning when it went down today we were left totally unavailable. T

Sadly our use case (private data etc.) prevents us from leaving the local availability zone, meaning when it went down today we were left totally unavailable. The recovery itself is ongoing but our applications are resilient enough to detect the restored connections and automatically add themselves back into the cluster.

origami777 10y ago
That's interesting. Is it an Australian regulation? Curious that they'd make it in such a way that the data had to reside in the same building/zone.
- PebblesHD 10y ago
  Indeed it is, it was a massive struggle getting approval to move into a cloud service in the first place.
  - inopinatus 10y ago
    I almost hate to point this out, then, but you did consider that there's no guarantee that an AZ is a single DC, right?
    - Twirrim 10y ago
      It's pretty much guaranteed not to be the case.
  - ageofwant 10y ago
    Really ? Pointing the local gov department's officer to AWS's IRAP compliance cert was all that was needed to move quite a lot of their stuff unto AWS.
    - inopinatus 10y ago
      Yeah, and I'm curious about which sector or agency is the culprit here. Even APRA (the financial regulator) are cloud-friendly now, if you engage them at the start of an adoption process. My wild guess is health insurance, being a sector where IT is notoriously hidebound, but it could just be a case of overzealous/interfering/uncomprehending lawyers. A security policy that precluded cross-site service or data replication would likely be in contradiction with DR/BCP plans. The classic irony for me was a service manager in just such an environment resisting a cloud move "because it's someone else's computer" - even though his (ancient) application was running on a rented partition of a remote, IBM owned & operated S/390... No surprise therefore that the big clouds have country resources dedicated to moving the needle on cloud awareness in highly regulated environments. (obdisclosure: I am former .au AWS manager)
      - technion 10y ago
        lawyers I've supported multiple legal firms who have assured me they cannot legally host their data in the cloud. Noone ever seems to be able to refer to a specific law, but then, it's an IT person talking to lawyers, so there are some battles you just don't fight.
      - Khaine 10y ago
        I would not call APRA cloud friendly. Systems of record can not be in the cloud, and I don't know of any bank that is actually storing data in the cloud
NeutronBoy 10y ago
Availability zones are different from regions. You can be in multiple AZ's within the Sydney region still.
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origami777 10y ago

That's interesting. Is it an Australian regulation? Curious that they'd make it in such a way that the data had to reside in the same building/zone.

PebblesHD 10y ago
Indeed it is, it was a massive struggle getting approval to move into a cloud service in the first place.
- inopinatus 10y ago
  I almost hate to point this out, then, but you did consider that there's no guarantee that an AZ is a single DC, right?
  - Twirrim 10y ago
    It's pretty much guaranteed not to be the case.
- ageofwant 10y ago
  Really ? Pointing the local gov department's officer to AWS's IRAP compliance cert was all that was needed to move quite a lot of their stuff unto AWS.
  - inopinatus 10y ago
    Yeah, and I'm curious about which sector or agency is the culprit here. Even APRA (the financial regulator) are cloud-friendly now, if you engage them at the start of an adoption process. My wild guess is health insurance, being a sector where IT is notoriously hidebound, but it could just be a case of overzealous/interfering/uncomprehending lawyers. A security policy that precluded cross-site service or data replication would likely be in contradiction with DR/BCP plans. The classic irony for me was a service manager in just such an environment resisting a cloud move "because it's someone else's computer" - even though his (ancient) application was running on a rented partition of a remote, IBM owned & operated S/390... No surprise therefore that the big clouds have country resources dedicated to moving the needle on cloud awareness in highly regulated environments. (obdisclosure: I am former .au AWS manager)
    - technion 10y ago
      lawyers I've supported multiple legal firms who have assured me they cannot legally host their data in the cloud. Noone ever seems to be able to refer to a specific law, but then, it's an IT person talking to lawyers, so there are some battles you just don't fight.
    - Khaine 10y ago
      I would not call APRA cloud friendly. Systems of record can not be in the cloud, and I don't know of any bank that is actually storing data in the cloud

NeutronBoy 10y ago

Availability zones are different from regions. You can be in multiple AZ's within the Sydney region still.

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