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Note that businesses will typically use Win10 Enterprise, often with WSUS.

by yuhong 10y ago

mavhc 10y ago
Large businesses. It's the DIY small businesses that always have problems. They should switch to Chrome OS.
- yuhong 10y ago
  This is a good time to mention that the minimum for volume licensing is only 5 copies.
  - cm2187 10y ago
    If the company only has 5-10 employees, it is pretty safe to assume they will not have a dedicated IT function who would worry for them about volume licensing, domain joined systems, etc. They likely just buy a laptop on Dell's website which comes with whatever version of the OS Dell tells them is good for them.
    - yuhong 10y ago
      Yea, I know many of them probably don't know this.
  - technion 10y ago
    It's still a hard sell. If a machine comes with Windows [Version] Home edition, there are business reasons to upgrade. If you buy a business machine with Professional edition, it already services all the business needs. I used to have good reason to push volume licensing when Enterprise was necessary to get Bitlocker.. but now there's very little business reason to do so.
    - yuhong 10y ago
      I think even with Volume Licensing, Enterprise is more expensive than Pro. But my point is that it is definitely possible to get it.
  - jasonjayr 10y ago
    Besides opening up a sales channel, is there SOMETHING that can explain what the right way to license Office + Windows in a 50-employee business? I've gotten by for SOOO long with samba + OSS, and our main stack is OSS, and have remained on the up + up with licensing. But with CAL's, Domain Controllers, File servers, etc, etc -- It seems to get so obnoxiously expensive fast --- for the only benefit of entrenching yourself to Microsoft tech? Given that I have to maintain a fleet of 40-50 Windows devices, Along with Samba 4, is there any good tech stack OSS or otherwise for managing all that?
    - yuhong 10y ago
      Yea, CALs are another mess altogether. I think some server products even use per-core licensing now.

Note that businesses will typically use Win10 Enterprise, often with WSUS.

by yuhong 10y ago

Note that businesses will typically use Win10 Enterprise, often with WSUS.

mavhc 10y ago

Large businesses. It's the DIY small businesses that always have problems. They should switch to Chrome OS.

yuhong 10y ago
This is a good time to mention that the minimum for volume licensing is only 5 copies.
- cm2187 10y ago
  If the company only has 5-10 employees, it is pretty safe to assume they will not have a dedicated IT function who would worry for them about volume licensing, domain joined systems, etc. They likely just buy a laptop on Dell's website which comes with whatever version of the OS Dell tells them is good for them.
  - yuhong 10y ago
    Yea, I know many of them probably don't know this.
- technion 10y ago
  It's still a hard sell. If a machine comes with Windows [Version] Home edition, there are business reasons to upgrade. If you buy a business machine with Professional edition, it already services all the business needs. I used to have good reason to push volume licensing when Enterprise was necessary to get Bitlocker.. but now there's very little business reason to do so.
  - yuhong 10y ago
    I think even with Volume Licensing, Enterprise is more expensive than Pro. But my point is that it is definitely possible to get it.
- jasonjayr 10y ago
  Besides opening up a sales channel, is there SOMETHING that can explain what the right way to license Office + Windows in a 50-employee business? I've gotten by for SOOO long with samba + OSS, and our main stack is OSS, and have remained on the up + up with licensing. But with CAL's, Domain Controllers, File servers, etc, etc -- It seems to get so obnoxiously expensive fast --- for the only benefit of entrenching yourself to Microsoft tech? Given that I have to maintain a fleet of 40-50 Windows devices, Along with Samba 4, is there any good tech stack OSS or otherwise for managing all that?
  - yuhong 10y ago
    Yea, CALs are another mess altogether. I think some server products even use per-core licensing now.