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IPhone 4.0 software to deliver multitasking support

29 points by gbookman 17y ago

bmalicoat 17y ago
For an Apple-centric site, their mobile interface is quite annoying. It obscures ~1/3 of the content until you begin scrolling and then the nav bars disappear until you stop scrolling only to reappear. To make matters worse, clicking the button to use the full site dumps you on the main page, not on the article you were reading.
- geuis 17y ago
  I noticed the same thing this morning. I like the amount of care they put into the interface, but a few things are wrong. First, when you click through to an article it doesn't go directly to the article. Second, the issue you mentioned. Its very distracting to have the interface fading in/out when trying to scroll.
- geuis 17y ago
  I noticed the same thing this morning. I like the amount of care they put into the interface, but a few things are wrong. First, when you click through to an article it doesn't go directly to the article. Second, the issue you mentioned. Its very distracting to have the interface fading in/out when trying to scroll.
- geuis 17y ago
  I noticed the same thing this morning. I like the amount of care they put into the interface, but a few things are wrong. First, when you click through to an article it doesn't go directly to the article. Second, the issue you mentioned. Its very distracting to have the interface fading in/out when trying to scroll.
- pkulak 17y ago
  I really like how their main site is too wide to read on the iPhone, even in landscape. You need an Android phone with it's text re-formatting to actually read it. Oh, the irony.
kaddar 17y ago
IPad 4.0 software to deliver pizza
- glhaynes 17y ago
  With multitouch and a big screen, my question is: do you really NEED an actual pizza, though?
  - stcredzero 17y ago
    But with the App Store approval process, no version of pizza delivery with the blonde and the "bow-chicka bow-wow" soundtrack. Rule 34: someone will do one as a Web app.
allenp 17y ago
So I'm guessing apps will still be sandboxed and not able to interact - so no voice recorder for your phone calls, etc.
- glhaynes 17y ago
  Indeed. If multitasking comes, apps will still have to interact with everything else through well-defined, public APIs; the only place they'll have free reign will continue to be their own folder. Also, I'd expect to see some quotas enforced to guarantee that, say, background Pandora really does only take x% CPU, probably within a static amount of memory.
  - gbookman 17y ago
    I'd expect to see some quotas enforced to guarantee that, say, background Pandora really does only take x% CPU, probably within a static amount of memory. I think it would be much smarter for Apple to just give the iPhone user some sort of notification when there isn't enough memory to run the app he's trying to open. Kinda like the classic Mac OS for those that remember.
    - halostatue 17y ago
      That would be a very bad move and very un-Apple. What is a user supposed to do with that sort of notification? When I launch a program, I mean to run the damned program. I don't want to be told "I can't run this, go close something else first." This would be a huge step backwards in iPhone OS usability. I don't care as much about background apps such as Internet radio streaming (sorry, especially since Pandora isn't available in Canada, I really can't care; I found that when I could use last.fm I didn't use it that much, either, which is why I didn't subscribe—there's no value in it for me). I suspect that most phone users don't, either. I'd be much more interested in a better notification queue, local notifications and alarms, and things like that than the ability to run programs (like Pandora) in the background. I'd be much more interested in an API to allow searching inside an application's data than running programs in the background. I'd be much more interested in quick ways to switch between two or three programs that I use regularly without having to go to SpringBoard than running programs in the background. My needs aren't typical, but I think that the need to run streaming audio programs in the background is, for now, even less typical.
timdorr 17y ago
More AppleInsider bullshit. There's no source on the article. Therefore this is pure speculation.
Auzy 17y ago
This coming from a site which was saying for years that Apple would be releasing a mobile phone and tablet (until they eventually did). Every damned WWDC/Macworld they would reiterate the rumor until it happens. Furthermore, its quite clear the article has no credibility when the author writes garbage like "Gaming has largely failed to take off on other mobile platforms because titles are limited to simplistic experiences, as they must either run in a poorly-performing layer of abstraction (such as .. Java/Android Dalvik runtimes...). Apparently the writer has never heard of the NDK, and isn't aware that there is no reason why Dalvik couldn't eventually run as fast as native code. Furthermore, I doubt the author has spoken to a single Android gaming developer.. I used to work at an Apple Premium reseller, and I've heard enough crap from Appleinsider that has been OBVIOUSLY wrong throughout the ages. They don't have any credibility, and I'm curious why people treat them with such respect. In fact, I'd say its pretty obvious they own stocks in Apple so CANNOT be a neutral party. Yes, multitasking might come eventually. But from experience, you'd have to be crazy to trust these guys. The fact is, everyone is thinking the same thing anyway (because its a MAJOR complaint about the iPad), and if it doesn't happen, AppleInsider will just shrug it off as delayed (as they normally do). AppleInsider Rumors are nothing more than educated guesses generally, or based on information which is available to every Apple reseller. I've never seen any information proven correct though that suggests it was leaked by an "insider"
- jasonlbaptiste 17y ago
  Rumor: Apple to Update Mac OS X Over The Next Couple of Years.
- mcav 17y ago
  ru·mor -noun 1. a story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts: a rumor of war.
- necrecious 17y ago
  It is pretty clear that Apple will include some kind of multitasking. Their API already include hints of how this could be done. I submitted a link to HN that speculated on how it would work.
smackfu 17y ago
It takes great skill to write an article with that many sentences that say nothing new.
ecq 17y ago
probably best to have a enable/disable switch for multitasking, with disabled as the default setting. majority of the iPhone users (i'm guessing) doesn't care/know about multitasking and would gladly use their iPhones without it.

29 points by gbookman 17y ago

For an Apple-centric site, their mobile interface is quite annoying. It obscures ~1/3 of the content until you begin scrolling and then the nav bars disappear until you stop scrolling only to reappear. To make matters worse, clicking the button to use the full site dumps you on the main page, not on the article you were reading.

geuis 17y ago
I noticed the same thing this morning. I like the amount of care they put into the interface, but a few things are wrong. First, when you click through to an article it doesn't go directly to the article. Second, the issue you mentioned. Its very distracting to have the interface fading in/out when trying to scroll.
geuis 17y ago
I noticed the same thing this morning. I like the amount of care they put into the interface, but a few things are wrong. First, when you click through to an article it doesn't go directly to the article. Second, the issue you mentioned. Its very distracting to have the interface fading in/out when trying to scroll.
geuis 17y ago
I noticed the same thing this morning. I like the amount of care they put into the interface, but a few things are wrong. First, when you click through to an article it doesn't go directly to the article. Second, the issue you mentioned. Its very distracting to have the interface fading in/out when trying to scroll.
pkulak 17y ago
I really like how their main site is too wide to read on the iPhone, even in landscape. You need an Android phone with it's text re-formatting to actually read it. Oh, the irony.

kaddar 17y ago

IPad 4.0 software to deliver pizza

glhaynes 17y ago
With multitouch and a big screen, my question is: do you really NEED an actual pizza, though?
- stcredzero 17y ago
  But with the App Store approval process, no version of pizza delivery with the blonde and the "bow-chicka bow-wow" soundtrack. Rule 34: someone will do one as a Web app.

allenp 17y ago

So I'm guessing apps will still be sandboxed and not able to interact - so no voice recorder for your phone calls, etc.

glhaynes 17y ago
Indeed. If multitasking comes, apps will still have to interact with everything else through well-defined, public APIs; the only place they'll have free reign will continue to be their own folder. Also, I'd expect to see some quotas enforced to guarantee that, say, background Pandora really does only take x% CPU, probably within a static amount of memory.
- gbookman 17y ago
  I'd expect to see some quotas enforced to guarantee that, say, background Pandora really does only take x% CPU, probably within a static amount of memory. I think it would be much smarter for Apple to just give the iPhone user some sort of notification when there isn't enough memory to run the app he's trying to open. Kinda like the classic Mac OS for those that remember.
  - halostatue 17y ago
    That would be a very bad move and very un-Apple. What is a user supposed to do with that sort of notification? When I launch a program, I mean to run the damned program. I don't want to be told "I can't run this, go close something else first." This would be a huge step backwards in iPhone OS usability. I don't care as much about background apps such as Internet radio streaming (sorry, especially since Pandora isn't available in Canada, I really can't care; I found that when I could use last.fm I didn't use it that much, either, which is why I didn't subscribe—there's no value in it for me). I suspect that most phone users don't, either. I'd be much more interested in a better notification queue, local notifications and alarms, and things like that than the ability to run programs (like Pandora) in the background. I'd be much more interested in an API to allow searching inside an application's data than running programs in the background. I'd be much more interested in quick ways to switch between two or three programs that I use regularly without having to go to SpringBoard than running programs in the background. My needs aren't typical, but I think that the need to run streaming audio programs in the background is, for now, even less typical.

timdorr 17y ago

More AppleInsider bullshit. There's no source on the article. Therefore this is pure speculation.

Auzy 17y ago

This coming from a site which was saying for years that Apple would be releasing a mobile phone and tablet (until they eventually did). Every damned WWDC/Macworld they would reiterate the rumor until it happens. Furthermore, its quite clear the article has no credibility when the author writes garbage like "Gaming has largely failed to take off on other mobile platforms because titles are limited to simplistic experiences, as they must either run in a poorly-performing layer of abstraction (such as .. Java/Android Dalvik runtimes...). Apparently the writer has never heard of the NDK, and isn't aware that there is no reason why Dalvik couldn't eventually run as fast as native code. Furthermore, I doubt the author has spoken to a single Android gaming developer.. I used to work at an Apple Premium reseller, and I've heard enough crap from Appleinsider that has been OBVIOUSLY wrong throughout the ages. They don't have any credibility, and I'm curious why people treat them with such respect. In fact, I'd say its pretty obvious they own stocks in Apple so CANNOT be a neutral party. Yes, multitasking might come eventually. But from experience, you'd have to be crazy to trust these guys. The fact is, everyone is thinking the same thing anyway (because its a MAJOR complaint about the iPad), and if it doesn't happen, AppleInsider will just shrug it off as delayed (as they normally do). AppleInsider Rumors are nothing more than educated guesses generally, or based on information which is available to every Apple reseller. I've never seen any information proven correct though that suggests it was leaked by an "insider"

jasonlbaptiste 17y ago
Rumor: Apple to Update Mac OS X Over The Next Couple of Years.
mcav 17y ago
ru·mor -noun 1. a story or statement in general circulation without confirmation or certainty as to facts: a rumor of war.
necrecious 17y ago
It is pretty clear that Apple will include some kind of multitasking. Their API already include hints of how this could be done. I submitted a link to HN that speculated on how it would work.

smackfu 17y ago

It takes great skill to write an article with that many sentences that say nothing new.

ecq 17y ago

probably best to have a enable/disable switch for multitasking, with disabled as the default setting. majority of the iPhone users (i'm guessing) doesn't care/know about multitasking and would gladly use their iPhones without it.