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I keep saying this in every comment I made on this thread, but I'm talking about the entire mobile ecosystem. Who cares if Android Chrome supports it, iOS doesn

I keep saying this in every comment I made on this thread, but I'm talking about the entire mobile ecosystem. Who cares if Android Chrome supports it, iOS doesn't. Which means it's not a 100% coverage. Just by letting this happen you are providing a low quality service to not just the iOS users but also the Android users, since there will be an assumption that the recipient doesn't always get the message in realtime. If you want to send that kind of messages, there is always email. Messaging apps are built on assumptions that people know the other person receives push immediately.

suppressingfire 10y ago
I call shenanigans for two reasons: 1) you can never assume a recipient ever has their phone on, with them and in a non-silent mode 2) users can disable push notifications for individual apps anyway
- galistoca 10y ago
  For some reason I feel like I have become some sort of FB defender, but I am not. Just to be clear, I am not a fan of FB. I even completely got rid of my FB account a year ago because I got sick of fake interactions on the site and have never looked back. I am happy with communicating with close people just via text and other special purpose communication apps. That said, the reasons you mention are pretty edge cases. Instead of just hating on it, just stop and think about it for a moment without prejudice. When you email someone you don't expect them to read it immediately, but when you send a text you at least expect them to know they received something, no? (If you say no to this, I really have nothing else to say anymore, you would be just denying the reality) That's what Facebook wants to be. They're competing with SMS, not email.
  - suppressingfire 10y ago
    Mobile web is an edge case, too. Shenanigans!
  - suppressingfire 10y ago
    Also, SMS is not guaranteed to reach the recipient in any reasonable timeframe. Also, if they're supporting desktop clients I again call shenanigans on your argument.
arielb1 10y ago
Many of the (non-techie) people I know have Whatsapp push notifications disabled, because otherwise there are way too many of them.

suppressingfire 10y ago

I call shenanigans for two reasons: 1) you can never assume a recipient ever has their phone on, with them and in a non-silent mode 2) users can disable push notifications for individual apps anyway

galistoca 10y ago
For some reason I feel like I have become some sort of FB defender, but I am not. Just to be clear, I am not a fan of FB. I even completely got rid of my FB account a year ago because I got sick of fake interactions on the site and have never looked back. I am happy with communicating with close people just via text and other special purpose communication apps. That said, the reasons you mention are pretty edge cases. Instead of just hating on it, just stop and think about it for a moment without prejudice. When you email someone you don't expect them to read it immediately, but when you send a text you at least expect them to know they received something, no? (If you say no to this, I really have nothing else to say anymore, you would be just denying the reality) That's what Facebook wants to be. They're competing with SMS, not email.
- suppressingfire 10y ago
  Mobile web is an edge case, too. Shenanigans!
- suppressingfire 10y ago
  Also, SMS is not guaranteed to reach the recipient in any reasonable timeframe. Also, if they're supporting desktop clients I again call shenanigans on your argument.

arielb1 10y ago

Many of the (non-techie) people I know have Whatsapp push notifications disabled, because otherwise there are way too many of them.