> I would still argue that Emacs itself is not an IDE. ... Emacs+CEDET is an IDE. It's just an editor with a turing-complete scripting engine. This isn't helpf

> I would still argue that Emacs itself is not an IDE. ... Emacs+CEDET is an IDE. It's just an editor with a turing-complete scripting engine. This isn't helpful. First of all, Emacs is an excellent IDE for Lisp and has a built-in debugger, sensitive completion and automatic documentation, while Visual Studio can't do any of those things you thought were important until you install Visual C/C++. Is Visual Studio "just" a editor with a plugin system? Why are you so interested in giving emacs such a negative label? > I would be interested in seeing similar environments for C#/Java as well as for dynamic languages like ruby/python/php, which IDEs have also been handling very well lately. For python, there's Ropemacs: http://rope.sourceforge.net/ropemacs.html http://rope.sourceforge.net/ropemacs.html For perl, there's Sepia: http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/SEANO/Sepia-0.97/Sepia.html http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/SEANO/Sepia-0.97/Sepia.html I don't program in C# or Java or Ruby or PHP regularly so I don't know about them off the top of my head.