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I'm upset that I have to go through StubHub, which exposes me to shady sellers (who I have zero means to vet - I can't even see who is selling which tickets). E

I'm upset that I have to go through StubHub, which exposes me to shady sellers (who I have zero means to vet - I can't even see who is selling which tickets). E.g. https://twitter.com/Jason/status/738489612075569152 https://twitter.com/Jason/status/738489612075569152 I'd much more happily pay market price directly on Ticketmaster than to some random seller on a secondary site. Edited to add: I know that StubHub "guarantees" the tickets. But the compensation is less than the hassle and disappointment of potentially missing out on an event I want to see. Especially if it comes in the form of getting to the door only to find out that the tickets are fake or duplicates (which does happen).

jessaustin 10y ago
ISTM StubHub could end this practice by keeping ticket payments in escrow until a week after the event. Yeah that would be inconvenient for whoever has a ticket to sell (as TFA suggests this is kept deliberately vague), but it would be death for the fraud you describe.
- DrScump 10y ago
  Few sellers would list tickets for far-in-advance sale, then. The strategy seems to be to do huge volume and let fraud get lost in the noise. They fail to see the risk of high-volume, planned fraud of well-in-advance sales for pricey events that are guaranteed to happen (say, the Final Four or Indy 500): sell bogus tickets a month out, collect payment, close accounts behind you, profit.
  - jessaustin 10y ago
    TFA indicates that these sellers aren't selling on a whim, but rather because that's part of the income they derive from services they provide to the music industry. Added inconvenience will annoy them, but it won't inspire them to leave this money on the table.
FireBeyond 10y ago
I wonder how many people who aren't in Twitter's "first name club", aren't SV elite, actually get more than a: "Sorry, your tickets were verified to be false. Here's a refund and $50 in credit for your next StubHub purchase." rather than "we reached out to the Warriers (because oh shit, you have more than a quarter million followers) and got you better tickets". Sorry, maybe that's the cynic in me...

jessaustin 10y ago

ISTM StubHub could end this practice by keeping ticket payments in escrow until a week after the event. Yeah that would be inconvenient for whoever has a ticket to sell (as TFA suggests this is kept deliberately vague), but it would be death for the fraud you describe.

DrScump 10y ago
Few sellers would list tickets for far-in-advance sale, then. The strategy seems to be to do huge volume and let fraud get lost in the noise. They fail to see the risk of high-volume, planned fraud of well-in-advance sales for pricey events that are guaranteed to happen (say, the Final Four or Indy 500): sell bogus tickets a month out, collect payment, close accounts behind you, profit.
- jessaustin 10y ago
  TFA indicates that these sellers aren't selling on a whim, but rather because that's part of the income they derive from services they provide to the music industry. Added inconvenience will annoy them, but it won't inspire them to leave this money on the table.

FireBeyond 10y ago

I wonder how many people who aren't in Twitter's "first name club", aren't SV elite, actually get more than a: "Sorry, your tickets were verified to be false. Here's a refund and $50 in credit for your next StubHub purchase." rather than "we reached out to the Warriers (because oh shit, you have more than a quarter million followers) and got you better tickets". Sorry, maybe that's the cynic in me...