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> At least they got their Obama. What? Obama wasn't elected on the strength of nice hair and Daddy's legacy.

by serge2k 10y ago

soperj 10y ago
His dad has a horrible legacy out west.
- serge2k 10y ago
  The west doesn't tend to have a lot of influence. Especially when a candidate is popular out east (Ontario and Quebec). When it's conservatives coming to power it's different since Quebec tends to avoid voting conservative. I'm from BC. Polls close and the victory is called before votes even results even really start coming in.
  - thinkloop 10y ago
    That's not a representation of influence, if timezones were reversed the same would happen with Quebec, minus the larger population.
    - hluska 10y ago
      With all due respect, I don't think you understand how the Canadian system works. Out of 338 seats in our parliament, 231 are held in Ontario and points east.
- auxym 10y ago
  Pierre Trudeau is not not very appreciated by a large proportion of Quebecers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Meeting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Meeting
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na85 10y ago
>What? Obama wasn't elected on the strength of nice hair and Daddy's legacy. Neither was our current PM. You're thinking the way the Conservative political strategists did. They ran their election against Trudeau Senior, not the current one.
- serge2k 10y ago
  Do you really think Trudeau would be PM (now) without his name? 2nd youngest PM ever, and the youngest is Joe Clark. Still rather have Trudeau than harper, I just dislike electing people based on legacy.
  - ishbits 10y ago
    Name? Maybe. But his hair and apparent good looks got a lot of votes as wel - sadly.
  - na85 10y ago
    >Do you really think Trudeau would be PM (now) without his name? Yeah I do. You've got a young, good-looking, charismatic leader with what look like progressive policies on things like drugs and other social issues who occasionally slips up with the etiquette like calling an MP a piece of shit on the floor of the Commons. It makes him look like a real guy, and less like a standard shitty politician, which is what the electorate are sick of. He's also a relative newcomer and time spent out of the limelight of either the PMO or the Official Opposition means he looks like a fresh change. That's exactly the opposite of Harper and Mulcair, the former of whom comes off as stodgy, out-of-touch and kind of an asshole, and the latter of whom comes off as one of the most fake, manufactured politicians of the modern age. I know which one I'd bet on every time.
    - serge2k 10y ago
      Would he even be liberal leader?

> At least they got their Obama. What? Obama wasn't elected on the strength of nice hair and Daddy's legacy.

by serge2k 10y ago

> At least they got their Obama. What? Obama wasn't elected on the strength of nice hair and Daddy's legacy.

soperj 10y ago

His dad has a horrible legacy out west.

serge2k 10y ago
The west doesn't tend to have a lot of influence. Especially when a candidate is popular out east (Ontario and Quebec). When it's conservatives coming to power it's different since Quebec tends to avoid voting conservative. I'm from BC. Polls close and the victory is called before votes even results even really start coming in.
- thinkloop 10y ago
  That's not a representation of influence, if timezones were reversed the same would happen with Quebec, minus the larger population.
  - hluska 10y ago
    With all due respect, I don't think you understand how the Canadian system works. Out of 338 seats in our parliament, 231 are held in Ontario and points east.
auxym 10y ago
Pierre Trudeau is not not very appreciated by a large proportion of Quebecers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Meeting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchen_Meeting
- deleted 10y ago
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na85 10y ago

>What? Obama wasn't elected on the strength of nice hair and Daddy's legacy. Neither was our current PM. You're thinking the way the Conservative political strategists did. They ran their election against Trudeau Senior, not the current one.

serge2k 10y ago
Do you really think Trudeau would be PM (now) without his name? 2nd youngest PM ever, and the youngest is Joe Clark. Still rather have Trudeau than harper, I just dislike electing people based on legacy.
- ishbits 10y ago
  Name? Maybe. But his hair and apparent good looks got a lot of votes as wel - sadly.
- na85 10y ago
  >Do you really think Trudeau would be PM (now) without his name? Yeah I do. You've got a young, good-looking, charismatic leader with what look like progressive policies on things like drugs and other social issues who occasionally slips up with the etiquette like calling an MP a piece of shit on the floor of the Commons. It makes him look like a real guy, and less like a standard shitty politician, which is what the electorate are sick of. He's also a relative newcomer and time spent out of the limelight of either the PMO or the Official Opposition means he looks like a fresh change. That's exactly the opposite of Harper and Mulcair, the former of whom comes off as stodgy, out-of-touch and kind of an asshole, and the latter of whom comes off as one of the most fake, manufactured politicians of the modern age. I know which one I'd bet on every time.
  - serge2k 10y ago
    Would he even be liberal leader?