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Two wrongs don't make a right. All throughout history rich men AND WOMEN of all races, colors and creed tortured the poor. The real issue isn't color, or gende

Two wrongs don't make a right. All throughout history rich men AND WOMEN of all races, colors and creed tortured the poor. The real issue isn't color, or gender. Its Class.

wpietri 10y ago
I disagree with your notion that in all the world there is only one real issue.
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- thomasatethose 10y ago
  well that's fair. but why do you think the over reaction is ok, which punishes innocent people not the people who created the system. again two wrongs don't make a right, all it does is continue a negative cycle.
  - wpietri 10y ago
    The people who created the system are dead. But the people who benefit from the broken system are still alive. (I am one of them.) And pushing the system toward fairness is not actually punishing them. Loss of privilege feels is definitely experienced as loss, so I can see why people would see it as punishment. Note all the rich people who cry rivers over having to pay their fair share or taxes. But reducing injustice is not punishment. Two wrongs don't make a right. But allowing a harmful system to persevere is what continues the negative cycle.
    - thomasatethose 10y ago
      I struggle to make a living,and I am a human being too. just because you made it doesn't mean we all have that middle upper class male privilege. The harmful system is not pursuing equality the right way. As you phrase you views, I have Less sympathy to help women because its clear this is not about equality,and I know I'm not the only one.
      - wpietri 10y ago
        What I am after is equality. I just think to do that we have to acknowledge the historical situation in which a lot of the inequality is rooted. (And I'll note that I didn't have "upper class privilege", just white and male privilege.) If you decline to have sympathy for other downtrodden people, I believe that's your problem, and I don't think blaming me will help.

Two wrongs don't make a right. All throughout history rich men AND WOMEN of all races, colors and creed tortured the poor. The real issue isn't color, or gender. Its Class.

wpietri 10y ago

I disagree with your notion that in all the world there is only one real issue.

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thomasatethose 10y ago
well that's fair. but why do you think the over reaction is ok, which punishes innocent people not the people who created the system. again two wrongs don't make a right, all it does is continue a negative cycle.
- wpietri 10y ago
  The people who created the system are dead. But the people who benefit from the broken system are still alive. (I am one of them.) And pushing the system toward fairness is not actually punishing them. Loss of privilege feels is definitely experienced as loss, so I can see why people would see it as punishment. Note all the rich people who cry rivers over having to pay their fair share or taxes. But reducing injustice is not punishment. Two wrongs don't make a right. But allowing a harmful system to persevere is what continues the negative cycle.
  - thomasatethose 10y ago
    I struggle to make a living,and I am a human being too. just because you made it doesn't mean we all have that middle upper class male privilege. The harmful system is not pursuing equality the right way. As you phrase you views, I have Less sympathy to help women because its clear this is not about equality,and I know I'm not the only one.
    - wpietri 10y ago
      What I am after is equality. I just think to do that we have to acknowledge the historical situation in which a lot of the inequality is rooted. (And I'll note that I didn't have "upper class privilege", just white and male privilege.) If you decline to have sympathy for other downtrodden people, I believe that's your problem, and I don't think blaming me will help.