You said Sweden is socialist sympathizing. I said that Sweden does not implement socialism, but a welfare state. As I understand it, those sympathizers of socia

You said Sweden is socialist sympathizing. I said that Sweden does not implement socialism, but a welfare state. As I understand it, those sympathizers of socialism in Sweden are actually sympathizers of a welfare state, while erroneously calling it "socialism". This is very different from Latin America, where socialism really means it (see Cuba, Venezuela, for example). Point taken about Sweden's corporate taxes, though it doesn't detract from the fact that there's nothing socialist about its economy. China and Vietnam reduce poverty the more they embrace capitalism... Not a coincidence I guess. Even in far from ideal conditions, the presence of an even somewhat free market improves the quality of life of the population. Trade is beneficial and stopping trade can be used as a weapon. However, what is usually claimed in Latin America is that having trade is the imperialist weapon, which is absurd. My whole point in this thread is that the people who claim that the US are evil imperialists simultaneously claim Cuba would be better off if not for the embargo. I'm simply pointing out this contradiction.