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I would lol at someone who fired me expecting me to say it this way. If you fire me I have no further obligation to your doublespeak.

harryh 10y ago
People that get fired tend to not want to say that they got fired and prefer this sort of doublespeak.
pjlegato 10y ago
That's why they usually couple it with some sort of a cash payoff / severance package for playing nice.
rdtsc 10y ago
You don't say it for them. You say it for yourself. You have nothing to gain by going around telling everyone you've been fired.
- x0x0 10y ago
  And you get to keep vesting. There's $$$ in it for you.
- atom-morgan 10y ago
  Honesty. Transparency. Accepting your mistakes and failures.
  - scrollaway 10y ago
    All qualities Tony Fadell is known for. Right?
CameronBanga 10y ago
He'll also get nice pay for two years as a "special advisor", where he does nothing and gets paid his old salary. I'd write whatever blog post was fed to me for that gig.
shostack 10y ago
There's a lot of upside to saying it this way and really no downside except the dopamine hit of calling out the other party. With this approach: - He gets paid a lot of money to do nothing for a period of time. - He exits "gracefully" from a perception standpoint (obviously any board considering hiring him in the future knows the backstory, but it is better than if Google were forced to fire him for gross negligence or something). - Google minimizes impact to their stock price to the extent possible with this, since they want to preserve an image of having everything be copacetic and under control for the mass Main Street investors. Tony likely has plenty of their stock and thus a financial incentive to play along. - Burning bridges is never a good strategy, and he and Larry are (were?) friends. Not a bridge I'd want to burn even if things didn't work out. - The person that gets a company from Point A to Point B is often not the same person that gets a company from Point B to Point C. In all of this Tony may have recognized that (even if it was a tough lesson) and acknowledged he was not the best person for the job. At lower-level/pay positions the stakes are much lower and it is much easier to conveniently leave a bad experience like this out of your resume, or paint it a different way. When the major media outlets cover your departure, ensuring every possible future employer knows the situation, you tend to play things a bit more strategically.
- atom-morgan 10y ago
  Not my style.

harryh 10y ago

People that get fired tend to not want to say that they got fired and prefer this sort of doublespeak.

pjlegato 10y ago

That's why they usually couple it with some sort of a cash payoff / severance package for playing nice.

rdtsc 10y ago

You don't say it for them. You say it for yourself. You have nothing to gain by going around telling everyone you've been fired.

x0x0 10y ago
And you get to keep vesting. There's $$$ in it for you.
atom-morgan 10y ago
Honesty. Transparency. Accepting your mistakes and failures.
- scrollaway 10y ago
  All qualities Tony Fadell is known for. Right?

CameronBanga 10y ago

He'll also get nice pay for two years as a "special advisor", where he does nothing and gets paid his old salary. I'd write whatever blog post was fed to me for that gig.

shostack 10y ago

There's a lot of upside to saying it this way and really no downside except the dopamine hit of calling out the other party. With this approach: - He gets paid a lot of money to do nothing for a period of time. - He exits "gracefully" from a perception standpoint (obviously any board considering hiring him in the future knows the backstory, but it is better than if Google were forced to fire him for gross negligence or something). - Google minimizes impact to their stock price to the extent possible with this, since they want to preserve an image of having everything be copacetic and under control for the mass Main Street investors. Tony likely has plenty of their stock and thus a financial incentive to play along. - Burning bridges is never a good strategy, and he and Larry are (were?) friends. Not a bridge I'd want to burn even if things didn't work out. - The person that gets a company from Point A to Point B is often not the same person that gets a company from Point B to Point C. In all of this Tony may have recognized that (even if it was a tough lesson) and acknowledged he was not the best person for the job. At lower-level/pay positions the stakes are much lower and it is much easier to conveniently leave a bad experience like this out of your resume, or paint it a different way. When the major media outlets cover your departure, ensuring every possible future employer knows the situation, you tend to play things a bit more strategically.

atom-morgan 10y ago
Not my style.