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I can't imagine ever loving my employer this much. And heaven help whoever tells me I'm on "lockdown" so I can't leave the building and I have to work weekends.

gdulli 10y ago
I don't think anyone loved their employer that much. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I'll assume there was lots of eye rolling on both sides as their leaders rallied them all around the idea of trading users cat pictures for their ad impressions. Your salary/equity/etc. vs. your value on your personal life either make overtime worth it or not.
- draw_down 10y ago
  > Your salary/equity/etc. vs. your value on your personal life either make overtime worth it or not. Precisely, in a way.
rajahafify 10y ago
Well, its not that hard to imagine. For hundreds if not thousands of years, people has been fighting to the deaths for their lords and kings. A few weekends is nothing really.
yanilkr 10y ago
Like someone else said. Love your job, but do not fall in love with your employer. You never know when your employer stops loving you.
- kristopolous 10y ago
  I'm not even on board with the first one. It's a financial transaction for my services. I'll be nice and polite, but I'm not going to enter into some personal relationship where I can be pressured to tender those services as a favor or for some kind of social capital.
  - CuriouslyC 10y ago
    If you don't love what you do you are basically committing yourself to 40+ hours a week of unhappiness. Not to mention the fact that people who love what they do tend to do a better job, and improve more over the long term. I really encourage you to find a way to view your work that lets you love it, or do something else.
    - dingaling 10y ago
      But realistically only a small percentage of people will ever find a job they can love. I even know an airline captain who complains endlessly, and that's still a dream job for most kids. In those circumstances the coping mechanism is to desensitise and decouple so as to treat those 40 hours as simply an enabler for the other 128.
    - kristopolous 10y ago
      Not at all. "Love what you do" is an employer tactic to maximize value and minimize cost of their employees hoping they'll work extra for passion instead of more money. Unless you have substantial equity it's not your company. Don't be passionate about a profit, control, or ownership you were very intentionally cut from. In this case the employer desires to run their company without paying you or dealing with you because they don't want you there. But as of today, they need you. If tomorrow they decide they don't, you'll be packing your boxes. Remember that. If you enter into a work relationship where you are nice then you open yourself up for abuse and favors. People stop respecting your time and ideas and you slip into the role of company bitch. Set boundaries and never hesitate to leave if things are not in your favor. It took 150 years of worker struggle to get a minimum wage, a civil war to get rid of slavery, and decades of violence to get rid of child labor. You are a worker. Remember what you are selling to the employer. Don't foolishly give away your labor capital. Maximize your own profit and minimize your own cost. However, if you own a commensurate share, then disregard all of this as it doesn't apply.
      - gozur88 10y ago
        Sometimes you genuinely enjoy doing something, and would do it for free if you had a way to pay the bills. I had a job like that for a few years, and it was nice. Didn't matter to me how much my boss made or who owned what. I was having fun. Most jobs aren't like that, though, and no matter how much you love something you eventually get tired of it.
ryanSrich 10y ago
Facebook is notorious for this. It is 100% a legitimate cult. Don't worry about wondering if someone works at Facebook or not. They'll be sure to tell you.
- fishnchips 10y ago
  I went from G to FB (which I left shortly afterwards) and I can tell you that FB isn't anywhere near as close to being a cult as G is. Not hearing the word 'googley' 10x a day was alone a substantial improvement.
  - ljlolel 10y ago
    It's funny you proved ryanSrich's point, but then again I worked at FB.
    - fishnchips 10y ago
      Oh my, at least I didn't leave anyone wondering ;)
- johan_larson 10y ago
  There is a certain appeal to committing to something 100%, to pushing it absolutely as hard as you can. But the cause has to be worth it, because you are going to sacrifice everything else: friends, family, the basic enjoyment of life. I don't see how anything FB is doing is remotely worth that kind of sacrifice.

gdulli 10y ago

I don't think anyone loved their employer that much. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I'll assume there was lots of eye rolling on both sides as their leaders rallied them all around the idea of trading users cat pictures for their ad impressions. Your salary/equity/etc. vs. your value on your personal life either make overtime worth it or not.

draw_down 10y ago
> Your salary/equity/etc. vs. your value on your personal life either make overtime worth it or not. Precisely, in a way.

rajahafify 10y ago

Well, its not that hard to imagine. For hundreds if not thousands of years, people has been fighting to the deaths for their lords and kings. A few weekends is nothing really.

yanilkr 10y ago

Like someone else said. Love your job, but do not fall in love with your employer. You never know when your employer stops loving you.

kristopolous 10y ago
I'm not even on board with the first one. It's a financial transaction for my services. I'll be nice and polite, but I'm not going to enter into some personal relationship where I can be pressured to tender those services as a favor or for some kind of social capital.
- CuriouslyC 10y ago
  If you don't love what you do you are basically committing yourself to 40+ hours a week of unhappiness. Not to mention the fact that people who love what they do tend to do a better job, and improve more over the long term. I really encourage you to find a way to view your work that lets you love it, or do something else.
  - dingaling 10y ago
    But realistically only a small percentage of people will ever find a job they can love. I even know an airline captain who complains endlessly, and that's still a dream job for most kids. In those circumstances the coping mechanism is to desensitise and decouple so as to treat those 40 hours as simply an enabler for the other 128.
  - kristopolous 10y ago
    Not at all. "Love what you do" is an employer tactic to maximize value and minimize cost of their employees hoping they'll work extra for passion instead of more money. Unless you have substantial equity it's not your company. Don't be passionate about a profit, control, or ownership you were very intentionally cut from. In this case the employer desires to run their company without paying you or dealing with you because they don't want you there. But as of today, they need you. If tomorrow they decide they don't, you'll be packing your boxes. Remember that. If you enter into a work relationship where you are nice then you open yourself up for abuse and favors. People stop respecting your time and ideas and you slip into the role of company bitch. Set boundaries and never hesitate to leave if things are not in your favor. It took 150 years of worker struggle to get a minimum wage, a civil war to get rid of slavery, and decades of violence to get rid of child labor. You are a worker. Remember what you are selling to the employer. Don't foolishly give away your labor capital. Maximize your own profit and minimize your own cost. However, if you own a commensurate share, then disregard all of this as it doesn't apply.
    - gozur88 10y ago
      Sometimes you genuinely enjoy doing something, and would do it for free if you had a way to pay the bills. I had a job like that for a few years, and it was nice. Didn't matter to me how much my boss made or who owned what. I was having fun. Most jobs aren't like that, though, and no matter how much you love something you eventually get tired of it.

ryanSrich 10y ago

Facebook is notorious for this. It is 100% a legitimate cult. Don't worry about wondering if someone works at Facebook or not. They'll be sure to tell you.

fishnchips 10y ago
I went from G to FB (which I left shortly afterwards) and I can tell you that FB isn't anywhere near as close to being a cult as G is. Not hearing the word 'googley' 10x a day was alone a substantial improvement.
- ljlolel 10y ago
  It's funny you proved ryanSrich's point, but then again I worked at FB.
  - fishnchips 10y ago
    Oh my, at least I didn't leave anyone wondering ;)
johan_larson 10y ago
There is a certain appeal to committing to something 100%, to pushing it absolutely as hard as you can. But the cause has to be worth it, because you are going to sacrifice everything else: friends, family, the basic enjoyment of life. I don't see how anything FB is doing is remotely worth that kind of sacrifice.