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The browser is fast, based on Chromium, has a nice Opera 12 inspired UI but is closed source.

by frik 10y ago

zerr 10y ago
Similarly to Opera, the startup time (even hot) is far behind Chrome. This is a deal breaker.
- dzek69 10y ago
  it was way better several builds ago
- levesque 10y ago
  Your browser stays open for 99% of the day, I don't see why a slow startup would be a deal breaker.
  - zerr 10y ago
    No, my browser gets closed/opened a lot during the day.
    - tauchunfall 10y ago
      Why?
      - angry-hacker 10y ago
        Different people use browsers differently? We're humans after all. I never understood people whining about memory usage and having 120 tabs opened - - having so many tabs sounded silly - - now I'm one of those people. I just happened to start using my browser that way. Different people, different needs.
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        zerr 10y ago
        Yes, I still have Opera 12 with a lot of tabs and tab groups. Sadly, old Opera's tab grouping is not replicated in any other browser I've tried.
      - zerr 10y ago
        Like any other program - I use it when I need.
dzek69 10y ago
it's open source. you cannot use the code or contribute, but still you can download the source code https://vivaldi.com/source/ https://vivaldi.com/source/
- StevePerkins 10y ago
  > it's open source. you cannot use the code Umm... that's "visible source", not "open source". I'm not sure if it needs to be open source to accomplish their goals (Opera isn't). But much of the tech crowd they're trying to reach won't use proprietary software. Come to think of it, I can't really tell what their business model is supposed to be.
  - scholia 10y ago
    The business model is the same as every other browser: monetized search, plus a small number of paid-for bookmarks. However, Vivaldi is a small operation so it doesn't need many users. Also, it's self-financed so there are no outside investors and the founder can do whatever he wants. > much of the tech crowd they're trying to reach won't use proprietary software You do realize that Chrome is proprietary, as are Safari and IE/Edge? No tech users at all? Gmail is also proprietary....
    - StevePerkins 10y ago
      > You do realize that Chrome is proprietary Chrome is a build of the (completely open-source) Chromium browser, with some additional media codecs and a different logo slapped on it.
      - gorm 10y ago
        You seem to ignore the binary blob extensions e.g. http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/not-ok-google-chromium-voice-extension-pulled-after-spying-concerns/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/not-ok-google-chromi... Also chrome integrates with service that Are closed source. Eg forsync
      - 10y ago
dzek69 10y ago
the browser is RATHER fast, but ui is single threaded, one tab can freeze the whole ui. also try to press and keep ctrl+t - it will froze, try this with other browsers - they are fine
jccalhoun 10y ago
in the reddit AMA linked elsewhere in the comments they were asked about it and said they were thinking about it so it isn't entirely out of the question that they will open source it.

The browser is fast, based on Chromium, has a nice Opera 12 inspired UI but is closed source.

by frik 10y ago

The browser is fast, based on Chromium, has a nice Opera 12 inspired UI but is closed source.

zerr 10y ago

Similarly to Opera, the startup time (even hot) is far behind Chrome. This is a deal breaker.

dzek69 10y ago
it was way better several builds ago
levesque 10y ago
Your browser stays open for 99% of the day, I don't see why a slow startup would be a deal breaker.
- zerr 10y ago
  No, my browser gets closed/opened a lot during the day.
  - tauchunfall 10y ago
    Why?
    - angry-hacker 10y ago
      Different people use browsers differently? We're humans after all. I never understood people whining about memory usage and having 120 tabs opened - - having so many tabs sounded silly - - now I'm one of those people. I just happened to start using my browser that way. Different people, different needs.
      - deleted 10y ago
        [deleted]
      - zerr 10y ago
        Yes, I still have Opera 12 with a lot of tabs and tab groups. Sadly, old Opera's tab grouping is not replicated in any other browser I've tried.
    - zerr 10y ago
      Like any other program - I use it when I need.

dzek69 10y ago

it's open source. you cannot use the code or contribute, but still you can download the source code https://vivaldi.com/source/ https://vivaldi.com/source/

StevePerkins 10y ago
> it's open source. you cannot use the code Umm... that's "visible source", not "open source". I'm not sure if it needs to be open source to accomplish their goals (Opera isn't). But much of the tech crowd they're trying to reach won't use proprietary software. Come to think of it, I can't really tell what their business model is supposed to be.
- scholia 10y ago
  The business model is the same as every other browser: monetized search, plus a small number of paid-for bookmarks. However, Vivaldi is a small operation so it doesn't need many users. Also, it's self-financed so there are no outside investors and the founder can do whatever he wants. > much of the tech crowd they're trying to reach won't use proprietary software You do realize that Chrome is proprietary, as are Safari and IE/Edge? No tech users at all? Gmail is also proprietary....
  - StevePerkins 10y ago
    > You do realize that Chrome is proprietary Chrome is a build of the (completely open-source) Chromium browser, with some additional media codecs and a different logo slapped on it.
    - gorm 10y ago
      You seem to ignore the binary blob extensions e.g. http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/not-ok-google-chromium-voice-extension-pulled-after-spying-concerns/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/06/not-ok-google-chromi... Also chrome integrates with service that Are closed source. Eg forsync
    - 10y ago

dzek69 10y ago

the browser is RATHER fast, but ui is single threaded, one tab can freeze the whole ui. also try to press and keep ctrl+t - it will froze, try this with other browsers - they are fine

jccalhoun 10y ago

in the reddit AMA linked elsewhere in the comments they were asked about it and said they were thinking about it so it isn't entirely out of the question that they will open source it.